Weaker than we were in December, YET AGAIN
so we're weaker than we were in December but on a positive note the accountants on the board will probably get another bonus, * sick of this and it was windows like this that made it easy for Rodgers to leave before, no ambition and we had a chance to get players bedded in before CL qualifying in August
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Have we?
All we've done is replace Kyogo with Jota and Valle with Schlupp.
Kyogo isn't a like for like, obviously.
Imo we've stayed the same.
What's annoying is that we had the opportunity to take a step forward, but we didn't... As per usual. -
For me we're weaker.
I don't see Schlupp as being a more effective option than Valle. Valle was a decent left-back who was doing a decent job as cover for Taylor - a role Schlupp now has. Why we shipped Valle out without knowing Tierney was definitely coming this month is beyond me.
Kyogo out and Jota in is similar in quality, and you could probably say Jota is the better player. But it's two different positions, it's not a like for like.
For me the squad we have is enough to get the league over the line and win the Scottish Cup. That's not the issue. The issue for me is that Brendan Rodgers has come out and said he wanted a new striker in to replace Kyogo. We didn't do that. That's a big problem, especially considering we knew Kyogo was leaving in January back in the summer.
Weaker again. Not to the extent that it'll * up the season, but to the detriment of the evolution of the squad.Rydo1888*, BigDoggyWoofWoof, The_Bhoy and 6 others like this. -
Jota is Palma's replacement. Kenny will likely take Kyogo's place in the squad. Schlupp is a CM/LM who replaces Valle, which I find a bit bizarre because it's not like for like.
We're basically banking on Idah to hit the ground running now and do something he's never done in his career - score goals consistently.
We're also hoping the combination of Jota, Maeda and Kuhn will chip in with enough goals to carry the rest of the burden.
We won't lose the league but we've left ourselves short again. We'll very likely end up scrambling around for players in the Summer now. Targets like Kvistgaarden will be out of reach and we'll be against the clock to sign the required quality for the qualifiers.
Nailed it. Perfectly put.Last edited: Feb 4, 2025 at 12:38 AMRydo1888*, BigDoggyWoofWoof, NakamuraTastic and 1 other person like this. -
For me it's going into CL qualifying without a Kyogo replacement bedded in and firing, it's like our board of accountants don't realise how much we earn from CL groups, bizarre having money in the bank and still not helping Rodgers developing our squad
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Not if big Adam is the main man and is trusted to fill that role. If hes injured Maeda can play up top. I get that we could have brought in a replacement but a likely scenario would be that no good opportunity was there to take. Honestly i'm quite happy for the board to not cave in to fans demands, we need to be wise with our funds and more or less wait for the right opportunity.
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Celtic manger Brendan Rodgers told us several times after the sale of Kyogo that he needs to be replaced before the window shuts.
That wasn’t some surprising statement, that is blatantly obvious what you need to do when you sell your No.1 striker half way through the season.
He even talked yesterday about not wanting to fall out with people like last time over previous transfer window debacles.
And what did this Celtic board do? They let him down once again.
They haven’t just let down Rodgers though, they have let down the rest of this Celtic squad that deserve help from a top quality striker and they have let down the supporters of the club massively
I have said before I was pretty relaxed about Kyogo going because I found it incomprehensible that we didn’t have a top striker lined up to replace him.
If that deal was to fall through I expected us to have a back up option ready to sign and even a back up option to the back up option, because that is how football clubs of our size and stature are supposed to work.
We are supposed to be professional. We are supposed to be prepared. We are supposed to continuously be looking to improve and strengthen in every transfer window we enterLast edited: Feb 4, 2025 at 5:43 AMNakamuraTastic and Morcombe like this. -
the * have absolutely no excuse for not bringing in a striker ,* pathetic
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It's just sheer incompetence at this point. Not even frugality or whatever, just pure stupidityMorcombe likes this.
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Of course we're weaker. We've replaced Palma with Jota,.Valle with Schlupp and Kyogo with Kenny.
Tierney signing can't be taken into consideration yet as he's not here.
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Celtic is one the best run clubs financially, I don't think anyone can argue with that. On the football side of things it all just seems so * and winging it, always reactionary, never planned unless players like Jota and Tierney fall into our laps.. i don't give the board much credit for those 2, they wanted to come back, be absolute riots if they * that up.
Said it before and I'll say it again and again and again.. Celtic do well despite Lawwell and the board not because of them. We will never reach our full potential on the pitch with them in charge.The_Bhoy, evilbunny1991, NakamuraTastic and 1 other person like this. -
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I'd actually say
Kenny for Kyogo
Jota for Palma
Schlupp for Holm and Valle
Jota is a huge improvement, Schlupp not much difference but probably better than Holm, Kenny we'll see but I haven't been impressed by Kyogo this season.
Probably a bit weaker, and I think we should have done better but not the ultimate failure made out. We've had numerous worse windows.Last edited: Feb 4, 2025 at 7:15 AMHammy89 likes this. -
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Jota>Palma
Schlupp>Valle and maybe even GT. hundreds of games in the EPL so must have something about him.
Kyogo>Kenny obviously.
Criminal not to replace Kyogo but i think we are stronger a lil bit, or at worst case scenario at the same.
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In some ways it matters not what we think..
Again, we've failed to match the minimum expectations of our manager.. made him look stupid and shown an incredible lack of ambition..
We seem to be unwilling to improve and strengthen when we can.. and aren't capable of 2 decent transfer windows in a row.
We are reactive, not proactive in the transfer market and are willing to gamble with CL qualification next season as no doubt we'll be scrambling around to be ready for that tie come August..evilbunny1991, snails67, neilly1987 and 2 others like this. -
As others have said, it's inexcusable not to have a new striker lined up given how long we've known Kyogo would be away for. Most disappointing thing for me is that it shows the board have only raised the ceiling of ambition slightly. We wanted to progress in Europe, we've got into the last 24 so that'll do, doesn't matter what happens from here because mission accomplished.
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Jota is Palma’s replacement :56::56::56:
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Could have been worse, but not replacing Kyogo especially knowing he wanted away for months, is criminal.
Just because we've had worse windows doesn't mean we shouldn't complain about this one and what it lacked. Same mentality that you're entitled or can't moan today because we were * in the 90s. We should always be striving to be better.NakamuraTastic, Artorias and JC Anton like this. -
Time will tell if we are weaker. We are apparently weaker everytime the windows slams shut and it turns out not to be the case a lot of the time.
Every club has the odd position they are light in. Also clubs miss on targets all the time.Skelleto likes this. -
Key person in all of this is Brendan.
How does he feel we've done versus goals set by him and recruitment team.
"It's always difficult (at this stage in the window) But there are good players available in January. There's always the mentality that you can't get good players but there is availability and we can afford it, so I'd like to think that we can do that"
“The club knows my feelings, they know why I came back. I'm here to enjoy my time at Celtic, not to fall out with myself and do all the things that sometimes I maybe didn't do the first time. But the demand is still there to improve the squad. We have to. We have to make sure that there's constant improvement.
"That's been clear. I don't need to fall out with anyone over it. Everyone knows what it is we want to do at the club and that's us all. I'm hopeful that we can do that.
“I don't expect it to be hectic, but I would hope that we could come out of this window stronger. And that's always been the plan.”
Fans can argue the toss over stronger or weaker (we are clearly weaker on pitch, imo).
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I don't feel it was necessary to take any steps forward, it is always better to but I think we have more than enough for the rest of the domestic season. Another striker isn't going to give us the edge ove BM
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