Since the Uk and the USA seem to see ourselves as keepers of world peace ,don,t you think we should be intervening in more wars like this.Something tells me we won,t be going near the place,mibbys something to do with lack of oil or some thing:rolleyes:
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The most you'll get from them when asked about that is words.
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Horrible story that :54:
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Sadly youre right FP ,our country and the likes of america ,france germany and so on dont get involved with african nations or any third world country , there is nothing to protect for them ,nothing in it ,ie money ,oil rich countries is when they intervene ,
Kuwait 20 odd years ago ,cos sadamm went after the oil fields ,still there 20 years later ,afghanistan ,the might of the russian army couldnt stop after x amount of years ,so america and britain and whoever else go in ,why do people honestly believe thats to catch bin laden ,no he is a bonus ,oil runs through afghanistan ,and also masses of heroin ,which is a big investment for someone ,the world is greedy and * up ,maybe the new president might take some good steps forward ,but i doubt it . -
It's a shame thats the case with these african countries it's always been the same that we have never sent troops over to them places to help them out we should have done something about that Mugabe a long time ago aswell.
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Funny that - Obama is asking the UK to move troops leaving Iraq to be deployed to Afghanistan. http://www.channel4.com/news/articl...litics/no+extra+troops+in+afghanistan/2801862 Hardly 'change'. I'm very scepticle of politicians and have learned that actions are louder than words when it comes to politicians. I won't congratulate the US on a decision when that decision has had no time to have any positive effect.
It's wrong to hail Obama. He hasn't done anything yet! -
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It's 'change' because the invasion of Iraq was illegal and Obama was one of the few American politicians who said so at the time. The war being fought in Afghanistan was a legitimate retaliation for it's support of terrorists.
I agree with the original poster that more should be done to help in countries like the Congo, but until the war in Iraq is ended the Armed forces are simply not capable of being deployed in large numbers anywhere else. They are already being stretched to breaking point.
Other countries should also do more, not just the US and the UK. This is another area where Obama can help, Bush managed to alienate so many of America's allies with his bomb first, ask questions later foreign policy. -
Where is Obama asking anything? He isn't even in office yet so thats a fallicy to begin with.
I'll hail Obama because he won an election many would have deemed, even as little as a decade ago, impossible. Time will tell whether or not he fulfils his promises but he's an extremely impressive person on the face of it in my opinion. -
I agree that he seems extremely impressive. He's very assured, calm and collected. Speaks very well, looks approachable and friendly and on top of that he appears very intelligent, something Mr Bush and Mr Brown appear to lack. Either that or they are just completely incompetent.
I sincerely hope Mr Obama DOES prove a great president who brings a positive change to the world but I shall play a wait and see game as I seriously lack any confidence that things will change. He is inheriting a tough job though.
I doubt that one man has the power to bring change. In my mind there are certainly people behind the scenes who pull the strings and have real power. The US president is just a puppet to them. -
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the puppeteers are aipac,the american israeli lobbyists.i read a scary book by a prof.mearshaimer about just how locked in to american foreign policy jewish finance actually is.you could also make the claim that if britain stopped selling guns to all and sundry they could absolve themselves from the bloodshed around the world.as it is ,their swimming in it!
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Sadly the US and UK only interfere when it suits them, although I wait to see if Obama will be any different. However, Britain's foreign secretary has said he's considering sending British peace-keeping forces to Congo as part of the UN force..
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Can't really see why the US or UK would bother sending out troops if it doesn't benefit them. After all, I'm pretty sure Congo isn't in possession of any lucrative raw materials or the like. :38:
When situations like this occur, it really makes you think just how unjustified the war in Iraq is:31: -
surely the slaughter of a few hundred thousand civilians in darfur (no tradeable commodities sadly)shone the first major spotlight on it for those with with eyes that can't see!
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Do you forget the US sent troops to Somalia a few years back? There was no glory involved in that, no money, nothing. All we got for our trouble is their soldiers being torn limb, from limb, and their bodies dragged through the streets.
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you went in to mogadishu to abduct somebody who you taught was a bin laden lieutenant and it blew up in your faces.your soldiers being torn from limb to limb!what of the countless civilians your government has blown to smithereens?there is no hesitation as far as darfur is concerned.they have noting of value for you so its a non issue for the american government,thats why they now say its an issue for the united nations solely ,as if iraq wasn't!
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what i've read on what happened in somalia comes from a book by american journalist peter bergen called holy war inc:inside the secret world of osama bin laden
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um it was a security detail for the united nations... the warlords in the country were stealing food from the locals.... starving them to death. the un and the us went in to try and protect the food.... the thing youre talking about the man we were trying to abduct was the warlord who's men were raiding the food distrobution.
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warlord?tell me you don't watch fox.then man you tried to abduct was an associate of bin laden.anything else was just an excuse.and the use of the term warlord is nothing but american and british propaganda.90% of the worlds population would be able to point you in the direction of the real warlords if you choose to look.your government is the biggest arms dealer on earth.in the eighties you sold arms and munitions to both sides during the iran -iraq war,not to mention the chemical weapons which was used as part of a flimsy excuse to go into iraq when saddam stopped "being our guy"
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"Considering" is just words im afriad -
If they send troops to these places, people back home will still riot, protest and criticise, even if the troops are there for the right reasons.
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