Would you swap stokes for....

Can I ask a question? Is Stokes the new Samaras. We have really missed having a go to Scapegoat, and I really think we need to instigate a new one for the benefit of the team and squad.

 

People also need to stop taking their opinions off of Fifa. Ciftci, a 5 star skill rating? Must be amazing. Ffs :smiley-laughing002:

 

The tone of the opening thread is disrespectful to Anthony Stokes, demeaning in fact and that suggests agenda driven to me.

We have a habit and tradition of looking after our own at Parkhead, i.e. the Contributors, and Stokesy has always been a good contributor. As I said if it had been Scepovic, Balde, Bangura or Pukki I could maybe see the point, however I think the OP is a character assassination attempt on Stokes IMO.

And why keep harping on about a poll all the time, do you want to create even more division on the forum ?

 

What part was a 'character assassination attempt'?

As far as I can see, he asked a fairly unlikely, hypothetical question.

Stokes is rumoured to be on £10k per week, which Dundee United wouldn't be able to match nor do I think a move like that would interest him.

It's as if some people on here think Stokes is above constructive criticism. Surely the point of a forum is to get different opinions?

 

How'd that work out for Jackie Mac?

Also, the lad's just asked a hypothetical question and it's turned out more pages than I thought it would have. To suggest there is an agenda here is more divisive than any poll. Yeah, he coulda picked anyone, but picked Stokes. Big deal.

 

i'm going to go along with the idea that you're obviously talking tongue in cheek.

But i respect everything Stokes done for us. Though i don't see a future for him at the club. And considering it's not a straight swap in terms of position that they play in, and the fact that We're more than covered without Stokes...... i'd be quite happy to let him go for someone that I think will score goals with the right service.

 

I like other fans would like to see more money spent on players. But it's not going to happen. Until our champions league fate is settled and we know if we are keeping VVD, both will be determined closer to the end of the window.

In the mean time we will likely on spend on new players what we bring into the club in sales. Plus off course there's the size off the squad. Deila spoke many times off needing to reduce the playing squad and moving players on.

I like stokes, meet him twice actually. But I don't see him as first team player in our formation. If selling stokes meant we can sign another striker before the play off game( hopefully we get there) I wouldn't be against it.

 

I'd like to refer your post here to my signature...


Are you seriously suggesting someone undermining stokes is the same as totally undermining our stopping of the 10.. whilst undermining our European cup win by comparing it to smaller cups won by smaller clubs. (whilst telling us lies at the same time)

Don't you * dare call anyone disrespectful.

I should know better not to bite at huns, I just cant understand how you get away with it, fair play to you. Spend your time on a forum that hates everything about you.... Couldn't do it myself.

 

I think this is a good point because this is the kind of thing we are trying to get away from at the club.

Too often in the past, have we had players at their peak, then let them run down their contract, to go on a free when they're well past their best ability and receive no return for them.

Stokes still has some value in terms of selling him. So I wouldn't be too devastated if we sold him in order to fund a replacement.

As you alluded to, there's no point in keeping a player just because of past glories.

 

Are we well covered on the left wing? Armstrong is * there and Derk is, well... Derk.

Stokes is a good squad player. Same with Matthews.

I would rather see others leave the squad before players of that calibre.

 

Would take the swap yeah but I don't particularly want Ciftci either, made my decision more on the fact that I don't think Stokes has a future with this squad.

 

We don't need to sell Stokes to buy Ciftci. Why do you keep pushing selling Stokes, and not the likes of Derk or Scepovic ?

What's Matthews got to do with it ? That is a bizarre comparison.

Dozen't make any logic either ?
Why sell Stokes when you rate/like him.?

I could just as easily say I met Stokes three times. Believe me ?

 

In fairness there is an agenda against Stokes mainly from the internet sort. There is no logic in letting him go. None that makes any sense anyway. Clear 10k from wage bill and get a miniscule fee that wont be spent anyway, cop yourselves on, he is better in our squad than not in it. He is consistently our highest assister over the last half decade and more than capable of doing the business in Scotland. Even if he does not start for us, he gives us options in several positions and if not playing then it is motivation for whoever does play to keep in out of the side.

If he is only on 10 grand a week then if he is here for the next 5 years that will cost us around max 3m (basic and bonuses). This is a good investment as he has proven that he can do the business. If he goes then we will gamble on a replacement with a high probability of failure. We should not be getting rid of players who are proven and get the job done. Simple as that.

 

I think you're being very harsh on Armstrong saying he's * there...


Turned up exactly when we needed him at the hardest place in the league last season to set brown up.

In fact he played there against Inter too did he not.

I'd say he's far from * on the left.


.. And as far as cover goes, GMS can play on the left with forrest and Janko able to play on the right..

so if 1.5m came in for Stokes, I'd take it.

 

We won't get anything for derk, be lucky to move him on without a pay off. I think scep is more suited for the loan striker than stokes. Just think stokes is a player that could free up transfer funds. If that happened and was added to the Matthews sale we could buy a possible first choice striker.

Qualify for champions league and keep Virgil for another season would be ideal.

The example with Matthews is that is position in the team is under threat with several players that can player that position. And in the case with Matthews the club cashed in.

And if you did good for you

 

We are making record money in player sales and this is not freeing up transfer funds, as you put it. What makes you think that offloading Anto will be any different? And as well what sort of money do you think we will get for him and what player will we sign that will get as many assists as Tony does? People stop trying to get rid of trusted first team players, it is nonsensical and insane.

 

To be honest, anything over 1million for Stokes. I'd rip their arm off.