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Would you accept Rodgers back as manager?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Cringer67, Jun 5, 2023.

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  1. StainseyBhoy

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    There's clearly something a bit strange with Knutsen's contract or he doesn't want to leave Bodo/Glint. Ajax don't seem to be able to reach a deal with him either
     
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    He gets a big percentage of player sales at Bodo.
     
  3. oh bhoy

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    it is weird that he has just got someone relagated and its barely mentioned,i get that lost a couple of players and couldnt sign anyone but you would think such an experienced coach would know how to keep them up
     
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    Almost 9 o'clock :fear:
     
  5. paulie walnuts Gold Member Gold Member

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    He’s the Norwegian John Kennedy
     
  6. LectersLuncheon

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    Absolutely agree with ALL of that.

    But your discounting the simple and incontravertable truth that this is a PEOPLE business.

    The measure of the man is EVERYTHING.

    Look at Spurs for example.

    Mourinhio, on paper, what could go wrong? How many leagues and European trophies?

    Conte, on paper, what worry is there? How many leagues and European trophies?

    Ancelotti at Everton, Benetiz at Newcastle, Moyes at Utd... The list goes on.

    Ange INSPIRED these players. It's as simple as that.
    Player / manager relationships are absolutely integral to success. Rodgers reputation, including HERE proceeds him.

    Everyone can freely admit the man is an egotistical * hat. But only a very few are willing to actually acknowledge that it could be major * issue for us, AGAIN.

    Let me guess, Calmac loves him, he said so, so Mikey?
    Ask the last Liverpool, Celtic and Leicester SQUADS he managed what they thought of him.

    He just doesn't do harmony. It's all about Brand Brendan.

    Also, I never slandered his coaching. I even said he was a WORLD CLASS coach. And he is. His history for developing players is unsurpassed imo. But his history of making an absolute * up of everything else supercedes that, imo.
     
  7. murphy88

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    Had a wee look back in the Rodgers thread. This is one of your posts. Why did you think we were lucky to have him if you don’t rate him?

    It looks like are indeed making an "official" approach.

    If he goes there will be a large section of fans (including myself) who would find it hard to wish him well.

    If he knocks them back then hopefully it will send a message to the board that we are lucky to have him and they need to back him. It will also send a message to those micky mouse epl clubs who sack their managers every other week that money isnt everything.
     
  8. straighttalker

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    He will tide us over for 2 seasons. After that he will throw his toys out the pram, so hopefully we are prepared for that.
     
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    I'm mostly onboard with his (re)appointment, however there are some concerns highlighted in these comments. Mainly around his ego and willingness to throw others under a bus to prove his points.

    One of those comments was about how, in order to make a point about lack of transfer backing, he wouldn't make any substitutions during an early season match, resulting in Leicester throwing away a 2 goal lead. Didn't he also play Mikey up top here against Sevco just to prove a point? There are ways to deal with these things which don't involve willingly jeopardising the teams results. It's petty and unprofessional.

    It'll also be interesting to see how he deals with the pressure this time. It's assumed that because he's been here before and knows the club and league he's the safer appointment, and there's logic to that, however we can't ignore that he had very little competition last time round, with Aberdeen bagging two 2nd place finishes. I don't like this narrative that anybody can win with Celtic because we know that isn't true, however nobody can deny that there's a difference in beating a Rangers just back from the lower leagues and one which had just won the league unbeaten and on the way to reaching a European final.

    My other concern is around his motivation. This is somebody who it was widely reported intended to take a year long sabbatical and break from football. All of a sudden DD rocks up offering huge wages and transfer funds and maybe twists his arm into returning. Is his heart truly in it?

    Apart from that though, I'm otherwise onboard the Brendan Rodgers express. Choooo choooooo.
     
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  10. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I wont argue with you although many might. I think most folks opinions are coloured but what happened first time around. He has to have something about him otherwise DD wouldn't be going all in.
     
  11. LectersLuncheon

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    Jesus!!! Is that what's it's come to? Seriously mate? Can't argue the point so try to dig up a contradiction in mine?

    Ok , I'll play.

    That EXACT quote PROVES EVERYTHING that I have said about the actuality of Rodgers leaving. That a Mickey mouse club did indeed poach our manager, that it would be hard to wish him well, and that it WOULD send a message that money doesn't rule all.

    If you're referring to the "lucky to have him" as some sort of "gotcha", you might need to try a bit harder.

    We WERE lucky to have him. You seem to have a tenable grasp on the basic tenses so I hope you note that past tense verb. WERE.

    And again, for the MILLIONTH time, I DO rate him. I think he's a fantastic man manager, decent tactical brain, and simply brilliant at pushing players past a ceiling they think they have, a la Scott Brown.
    I'm getting bored repeating myself .

    That doesn't mean I think that right NOW, present tense, here, in this moment, that he's anywhere near the best candidate for the job.

    He's dangerous, divisive, redundant in Europe, egotistical to the point of ruin, and will cost a * fortune.
     
  12. stew37

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    Just sign already, put all this pish to bed. :56:
     
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    You wont get any argument from me on that. I find it hard to believe we're offering humungous money to BR. Maybe big bonus incentives. As I said so much rumour and paper talk.
     
  14. oh bhoy

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    i have to admit im a lot happier with this appointment than i was with the last 2
     
  15. The Phoenix Black Lives Matter

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    Can see Brendy taking us to a Champions League final.

    Bookmark this post haters.
     
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  16. Jeannie960 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'm not arguing that we couldn't and should do better but for whatever reason DD has made his decision. It's not apathy it's accepting that screaming and stamping our feet is only going to make the situation worse given no one else either is or hasn't been invited into the frame. Right now we are a club without a manager and if it's him we just have to accept it for now. If he fails how bad is it going to be for him and it gives the fans a big stick to wield over the board in the future.

    We are all tired of this going backwards and it's not just a case we're welcoming him with open arms. I don't think other managers are out of our reach financially but the board may have a different view as to them it's a business decision. I still think though top managers will look elsewhere before they come to the SPL. Like it or not it's isn't as lucrative or glamorous as other top destinations.
     
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    It would appear logic and reason have flown from these boards, so now, I will be a pure *, and attempt to poison your minds ...

    I'll just leave these here... :fear:

    "The FA Cup, for British coaches in particular, is very special. It hasn't quite sunk in yet for me. "

    Because I’m a British manager, I got lucky, that’s the way it works in these games. But the players were brilliant and got their rewards.”

    Brand Brendan, in black and white.

    Enjoy :dancing:

     
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    Oh Brennie please be hasty
     
  19. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    All managers talk pish :56:

    Give me a few million a year and I'll pretend the same.
     
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    I’ve argued the point plenty, but you just simply tried to belittle what he achieved with Leicester, so there wasn’t much point continuing as that’s just scraping the barrel in all honesty. Waffling on about how it was purely down to his goalkeeper he won an FA Cup. Nonsense stuff basically.

    I’ve also gone over plenty times about the reservations regarding his transfers. I mainly pin the blame on our board for this, not fully, but mainly. Bringing in free transfers and loans galore is not the way we should be operating as a club. That’s what was happening when he was here though. Or we were spending sub £1.5m a lot of the time and expecting world beaters. If you add how much we made from the players he brought here, we made money. So all in all, it wasn’t a disaster as some are claiming.

    I’m just wondering why someone so set against him coming here also felt we were very lucky to have the same manager.

    I’m not sure how many times I’ll need to repeat myself either. I wanted Knutsen. However, when it became clear he wasn’t going to leave Bodo, then I absolutely wanted Rodgers. It was looking like a toss up between a managerial novice who had one job and flopped, against Rodgers. It’s an absolute no brainer over they two options. Anyone wanting the former is living in cuckoo land.
     
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