Winning the title

Quoted you there but wasn’t singling out yourself really for that, seen a lot of it everywhere, and it’s just carrying on division thats been rife all year when we’ve got something positive to get behind for the run in. We need to just do that, and revisit everything else when we’ve done the business.

its been 120 minutes of positive football, and fans turning round and appreciating it, early days still we just need to all pull in the right direction. They’re still favourites at the moment.

We’re a fanbase not used to a scrap for a title anymore, getting behind the team at this stage is imperative

 

We’ve forgot what it’s like, when it’s squeeky * time. It’s been that long since it’s been in the balance at this stage of the season, 9 times out of 10 for us, and the one without we gave ourselves no chance. First proper scrap out blow for blow for the league in years here, and fans play a crucial role in those times

 

Whether they’re on the pitch at the same time or not Idah and Kyogo at Tynecastle = 3 points

 

Not at the same time for Tynecastle, O’Riley, Calmac and Tomoki in midfield is a must at Tynecastle for me. Solid, clever, good on the ball, hard working and all can win a battling midfield without being drawn into a scrap. Iwata most of all is key for us, hope to * we keep him fit rest of the season.


Could be looking at him coming in at this time at the end of the season like we do Hartley and Robson

 

I admire your confidence, but don't understand your beligerance.

Have you seen the * state of us this season? A decent half against Motherwell and a routing of a * awful Dundee side are exactly the type of false dawn's Der Hun has clung to for years.
"It's on". "Battle fever on" pish is the type of declaration these reprobates make every season only to see it collapse a game later.

If we beat Hearts convincingly, then I'll take a sip of your deludamol, to combat the negativity I suffer watching a Celtic manager fail on three occasions to tactically outthink Derek * McInnes.

If we win all of our games before the split, including Ibrox, I'll start to "believe". Until then, I'll simply look at the stats of our manager and the Sevcos managers win rates, and appropriately taper my expectations with reality.

 

Park it to the summer, we’ve all got plenty to revisit, but when there’s a wee buzz starting and 10 games left in a battle for the league and £60m then it’s better to just push on and try to keep that positivity going.


You’ve seen this title fights before mate, infighting with the fans has never been a help for us.

Also don’t think you’re one that gave it up as done and dusted as soon as we went 2nd, raging and demanding better, criticism aye defo but didny give up the ghost immediately. Which is the guys his post was aimed at

 

I was trying to be funny! Don't worry, it's a well known fact I'm not.

 

I treat in here like being at the pub. Going to say what I think. Is that not the point of a forum? Does infighting count on a forum? If so, I might have to hold my hand up to us losing the COVID season.

* we've all sat in front of that guy shouting at one single player how * they are, regardless of how good they play. Doesn't mean he doesn't support fully support the team.

Said from the start of the season the league is ours. Not changed one iota yet, regardless of how poor the managers been.

 

Aye you’re right, I think I’m just annoyed going on facebook 6-0 up at halftime last night and seeing nothing but Celtic fans having a go at other Celtic fans about us winning. ‘Where yees hiding’ ‘happy clappers now are we?’ Etc

Then we conceded a goal and that was a disgrace for a poor 10 men Dundee and no clean sheet. We’re at each others throats about everything the now, this is the only time this year except just before the break it feels like something we can latch onto and kick on

 

Easy to get sucked in.

So here's the thing. Everyone going off the deep end on here about Rodgers getting booed when he took Iwata off and how the crowd where wrong. Where they *. The games the game.

Last night Dundee scored twice (including the one deVARed). No one in the ground gave a *. A tad disappointed sure, but from where I sat it was more groans, eye-rolling or laughing at it. Who gives a * what FB says.

Pretty much the crowd at the ground are always right and social media/internet warriors are just noise. And there is a lot of noise. Basically your just suffering from being exposed to people you wouldn't talk to in the pub being able to * you off on FB. Got * all to do with Celtic. Hopefully not xplaining to you but I've saved a lot of grief/angst just binning these sort of things.

Also, didn't think anyone other than pensioners did FB anymore. You must be older than me @Liam Scales

 

I won’t lie I was * raging with fans booing that, Iwata just back from injury despite him going strong subbing him off helps having him available for the run in, he put a more attacking player on when we needed a goal and most importantly the player coming on being booed can * hear the boos, and it doesn’t help us that.

Bernardo clearly thought it was aimed at him, we know it was just venting at BR but Bernardo didn’t.


Ack no just facebook that pubs, group chats, watching games with troops or sitting at Parkhead it’s been a pile of negativity and misery even when we were 8 ahead. For some good reasons btw, but we need to park they reasons until summer now


Btw, stopped going to the pub game days to stop listening to * nonsense, back when TC was the only thing I’d see fans talking football on

 

Aye, don't really remember booing being a thing we ever did. Having said that I think Rodgers has been awful appointment and other than Barnes not sure I've ever thought our manager has given less of a * or been as incompetent. That sort of * would be hard not to boo.

As for affecting a professional football player, I guess it all counts, but I find it hard to see. I cheered Tony Cascarinon game, after game, after game. Didn't make him any better.

 

I can mind booing aimed at our own team but never ever during a game. Never seen a sub being booed on outwith Griffiths pre-season against West Ham, and that was for other reasons than football that and also, was a friendly, not a game we’re gasping to win.


Rodgers point about why he was confused about it, it was an attacking switch bringing on someone who’s been a goal threat and creative at points this season. Then we booed him coming on, and he’s 21 or something? Young guy coming on, probably thinks we really like him because earlier this season and scoring against Huns and that. Then he hears boo’s because he’s subbed on.

Most young guys are going to do * all after that point, ball being a hot tottie and hiding. He still tried but could tell he was nervous as *. Hope JK or someone took him aside after the game and told him while the sub was booed, it was aimed squarely at the manager and no him. He’ll probably not believe that either though, I doubt I’d believe it

 

The reason Iwata getting subbed coming off caused booing was because he was the only midfielder contributing, is what I thought. Bernardo wasn't booed.

Is 21 young for a professional footballer, and is dealing with the environment they compete in not something all competitors should be prepared to deal with even it it is non-ideal? If he's doing * all after that then cancel his contract and sue Benfica would be my suggestion. What's he going to do if we sign him and get Fernabarche in the CL?

For these things is it better to wait until everyone is throwing sharks about the place? The football on Sunday was abysmal and in large parts unexplainable. I personally fully understand the booing, even if its not something I think I'd do myself.

 

It was that and purely frustration getting vented at Rodgers, any other day it’s an ahh gutted he’s been brilliant first game back keeping him fit, getting an attacking guy on makes sense. But * was at boiling point, proper boiling point after the last couple weeks before that game.

I absolutely get why, my point more is I doubt Bernardo did. And it wasn’t something that would help win the game, more a hinderance.


I understand why defo mate, I just think it was venting wrong and unhelpful. I prefer stuff like that to be kept to half time, final whistle and when it’s shark time, after the game in the car park.

After Killie equalised we tried to back the team onto a winner, it didn’t happen, then a lot stayed behind and showed their anger towards the board and where they sit. That’s the way for me. During the game, when it’s winnable, then we’re actively unhelpful at that point. When GB were banned at Parkhead this season and we were terrible at Parkhead during that time, with every grumble and shout of abuse at a player heard and little support and egging us on there, it was so nervy and obvious it gets to us as a team.

 

You really think that should affect Bernardo's performance? I get a 16/17 year old but a professional athlete? Few professions would allow that sort of thing.

 

Absolutely will mate, would effect guys more experienced than him as well. How many times have you seen us through the years the support and fans at Parkhead getting us something different to beat Man Utd, Juve, Barca…


And it having an impact on some of the best guys in the world. * like that makes a major difference, getting booed on the pitch, a guy played about 20 odd pro games btw, it will have an effect.

Even if its focusing on ignoring it, it’s something distracting at the least. The full Celtic support being the 12th man whilst being birthday card pish, pandering stuff.

It’s mad the effect we have on teams. Listening to guys talk about Parkhead Covid year with no fans shows that more than anything. The hydro with Broony and Lustig Broony said it was just eery and weird, and they should have got over it and adapted, but focused on it and got weirder for them instead.

 

In all honesty, all that hydro anecodote says is Lennon set us up for failure when it was much easier to spot success. Makes me angry actually that they were so stupid. Makes me thing less of Brown too.

Been there frequently for those big games. Honestly, whilst the fans are in the mix, its much more about the mentality of the team/players. Lennon proved that.

So I accept in excptional circumstances - CL matches, Cup Finals etc that fans can affect games. In Celtic's case I'd usually expect that affect to be positive. A game involving Motherwell. FFS!!!

Not that I'm knocking sporting psychology that focus on this sort of thing but it's not obvious why/how/when it would be that big a deal. And if it was we should already be managing it.

 

I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to imagine a young guy just over 20 games into a career who’s done quite well for us, and has only received the good side when he was playing week in and out because he was on fire, getting booed onto the pitch that it could have a bad effect on him.

I think it’s more likely than not.


Another Broony anecdote that Lustig joined in agreeing with that night btw, was the senior guys used to Parkhead teaching the new guys to keep patient at Parkhead when there’s 60k fans screaming to shoot or go forward when its not on, I’d not thought properly about the shoot shouts and stuff till then and thats just normal, but I’d * shoot


edit: I blame every part of that on Lenny, if the squad felt that way, train everyday at an empty Parkhead until they don’t then. Simple solution that for me.