Why you shouldn't jump the fare

None of it would have happened had the boy simply paid the fare like everyone else. He brought the whole situation on himself and he knew fine well what he was doing.

He said himself in the BBC interview that he had been drinking, but was not drunk. Therefore, he would have been in a good enough state of mind to know that he did not have the right ticket.

 

Keep yer eyes peeled for a job vacancy at Scotrail..d'you know these conductors are on about 25 - 30 grand a year??!!

 

The boy isnt the first ever person to try dodge a fare ( thats if he was trying to dodge at all that is). This kind of thing must happen all over Britain dozens of times a day..do we ever hear about it on the news? Thats probably because other conductors, examiners follow company procedure and have them delt with properly in a safe manner.

 

Also if you listen closely to the video Fat Boy says to the conductor " de ye want him aff"? The conductor says "Aye".
The he grabs the boy.

Surely the old fart should get more than his * chewed? Should be his P45 as he's basically caused someone to be assaulted.

 

It may or not be true that thousands of people dodge fares every week all over Britain, but its lucky for them and unlucky for this guy that people are not recording their particular ordeal.

The only reason this one is gaining media attention is because of the video. I'm pretty sure that if the other "fare dodging" instances had also been recorded, they would be gaining public media attention too.

The world doesn't know how other train conductors handle these situations, because they are not all available to view on YouTube and other video sharing websites.

 

True, most ticket examiners would involve the transport police to sort out the matter. The last thing Scotrail want is their staff causing trouble on the trains and causing delays.

 

A lot of conductors (at least over here) do not anything against fare dodgers because they are afraid to get assaulted (in which case they are most likely not defended by other passengers).

Everybody is in the wrong in the video and at the same time I can feel sympathy for all of them.

 

Sure I agree, sometimes being the guy checking tickets and coming across all sorts of arseholes on a daily basis can be a dangerous job for them.

I cant see how you can feel any sort of sympathy for "the big man though"..look at the video again and you can actually see him merely casing the situation out, sizing the boy up. He knew what he was doing from the start. It was none of his buisness, but must have thought to himself..I'm alot bigger than this wee guy, I'm gonna be a hero and throw him bodily off the train..to me he's a bully and a coward and should be delt with.

 

Have to agree if the guy was the same build he would have say back and watched like everyone else who seen what was going on
However the boy was dodging his fare and should have been removed from the train just in a proper manner not manhandled

 

For parties who are not involved, it is very easy to say how one should behave. Citizens should not resort to violence (unless in self defense or defense of others), that is the job of the police. So the big guy should not have done that.

However, if I was in that train and was in a hurry, I might do things I should not do as well. And to be very honest, I would not take a stand against a big bloke who looks like he can kick me around with two hands tight on his back, but I probably would against a wee *. "If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril." Sun Tzu

 

Why do people keep peddling this *? He didn't try and dodge his fare - he had paid for a ticket and was given 2 singles as opposed to one single and one return - therefore he was refusing to pay on top of what he had already paid.

I'd imagine he travels to uni on a daily basis via train - why would he randomnly choose one day to just now pay?

 

You know this for a fact, do you?

 

I know this for a fact as much as you know that he was fare dodger. That is what the boy has claimed and, given past experiences with scotrail, I do believe him.

 

hes coming on ch5 news in a few mins.

 

Well, I'm not the only one in here that thinks he is a fare dodger. You're the only one so far that's taking the stance of "he paid and ended up getting two singles, as opposed to one single and one return".

Even if this was the case, why would he not tell the conductor as such? He said in his interview that he tried to explain, yet kept being shouted down by the conductor. Yet, the video clearly shows that this was not the case and if he wanted to explain the situation, he could have.

 

The boy claimed he bought two singles, if he can prove it scotrail will be in the *.

 

If he can prove it, fair play to him. He's obviously smarter than I give him credit for.

 

Just spoke to my cousin who works with scotrail and he says the conductor has been suspended as he gave the big yin permission to throw him off. I asked him what he thought and he said all 3 were in the wrong.

 

His suspension was inevitable, the way he handled the thing was incompetency of the highest order.

 

After hearing about the two singles thing, then the boy is definitely in the right. It's not his fault for someone else's mistake and the he certainly shouldn't need to pay the money for it. Although it was only a small fee, it's a point of principle.