Who could we replace Ange with?

Just totally untrue. I said it in a previous comment, but if we were told we were getting a manager who had almost won the league with Liverpool, took a midtable team to 5th, 5th, 8th and won them a cup, and 8/8 trophies and had an invincible season in Belgium/Austria, we would be absolutely all for the appointment.

Rodgers has flaws, as does any manager we appoint - but he has experience and pedigree, and if you are seriously "petrified" of Rodgers then I don't know what to say. I'm much more worried about appointing a Farioli or Maresca as opposed to a manager of Rodgers' quality.

 

I honestly couldn’t care less what any EPL fan has to say about football. I knock about with a few, absolutely clueless.

 

Can't see him changing as a coach much at all. Would prefer a fresh face with fresh ideas. Will happily get behind the players if he is appointed but won't be as supportive of the manager as I was first time round.

 

So they're all wrong about Rodgers and he didn't have a major hand in their relegation? None of their opinions are valid because they played in the EPL. That's a ridiculous statement..

Rodgers is a walking red flag and that thread exemplified exactly why. But no no they're all wrong about him so let's overlook the damage he caused at his most recent club.

 

Can't be arsed replying to you about Leicester fans mate.. I dont care what EPL fans think. So here's a post from @Slaw enjoy

think there’s a lot of revisionism going on with peoples views of what Rodgers did here. We were all absolutely gutted when he took that Leicester job. So why then are people trying to make out like we were playing rotten football?

We got a result HOME and AWAY against Man City in Europe.

We beat Anderlecht 3-0 away from home. We put it up to a top class Bayern in a 2-1 home loss. We got a draw away to Monchengladbach.

We qualified for the Champions League 2 years running which we always found notoriously difficult before he came.

The year we * it against Athens, we papped Leipzig out of our Europa League group.

Now I’m not here to tell you that we had a stellar European record but we did hold our own in many regards. The obvious stand out result against him is AEK Athens. A result he redeemed with Europa qualification through arguably a CL standard group. Both times we reached knockout football we were put out by better teams than us: Zenit and Valencia.

Overall, Rodgers won 7 out of 7 trophies. He all but secured a treble treble. A * treble treble. With back to back Champions League qualification, some top European nights against juggernauts Man City, twice in Europe after Christmas.

If you hate Rodgers and you don’t want to see his face at Celtic Park again that’s your prerogative. But if that’s your stance, own it. Don’t try to make out Rodgers was anything but a roaring success who we championed til the very day he left.

Did I mention he did an entire season unbeaten in all domestic competitions?

 

So was Ange and yet we embarced him to great success.

 

This post doesn't even make sense, Ange leaving has nothing to do with my last 4 posts in this thread. Not sure how you landed at this?

 

Things eventually go sour with Rodgers. That's just the way it is.

I don't want him here for 4 years. I'm hoping he does an Ange. Massive success for two years then back off to England.

 

Aye I agree, almost all of my worries with Rodgers are after the 2 year mark, as that's when heavy recruiting comes into play and when he usually falls off.

The next 2 years however, will be extremely successful under him imo. If Rodgers comes here for 2 years, then leaves for England again, I don't think there'd be any grudges on either side.

 

I keep hearing this, won an FA Cup and finished 5th twice. Great, what about his MOST RECENT season? You know, the season where he left them in the relegation zone and very likely going down under his stewardship. What about all of those posts describing the mess he created, the * poor management towards the end, the toxic atmosphere, the mad ego-maniacal decisions to save his own skin? The disrespect shown towards the players and fans? The constant failures in Europe?

Come on mate you're a very reasonable poster but surely you can't ignore the reputation he has amongst the Leicester fanbase. Does that thread on their forum not concern you even a little bit?

 

Not sure what's confusing you about this but Ill break it down for you.

Ange * over every club he has managed, including ditching his last team mid season were red flags that we ignored and he lead us to 2 years of success before also * us over. So why are your panties in a fankle about Rodgers "red flags" if we get 2 seasons of success out of him then that's a good return. Either he will * us over again or we will him, but if he wins us trophies aling the way it's all good.

 

You didn't respond to my last post.. why not?

 

This kinda be my thinking as well.

 

Ok let me break it down for you. I didn't give a * about Rodgers leaving the way he did. I was actually pretty relieved. In fact I was more annoyed at Ange because he's the better manager and had us pulling in the right direction, but I don't care anymore, Tottenham is a big opportunity.

Repeating myself here but the red flags I'm talking about have nothing to do with the way he or Ange left us. The red flags are - his management style, lackadaisical football, very poor transfer record, his toxicity, his actions that alienate the players and fanbase, his sleekit behaviour to save his own ego even when it detrimentally affects the team, and the poor showings in European football.

ALL of which have been proven at his last two clubs. In essence, nothing has changed about any of the concerns I had about Rodgers since the last time he was here. Get it?

 

Feels like some weird parallel universe. If you told me this time 2 years ago that Ange would be a massive success and would leave for Spurs and we would replace him with BR I would have thought you were mad. Maybr get Ange her back when BR * off again.

 

Great thing about Rodgers as a coach as he’s always evolving with the times best example is look at Neil Lennon absolute got left behind as a coach even slagged off xg expected goals


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I just can’t get excited about the utter humpings coming our way in Europe, if the first stint is anything to go by.

Ange might well have been well beaten too, but at least you know he’d have a right go in the process.

I’d like to think our transfers will be better, but i can’t see him agreeing to take the job without a say in who comes and goes.

There is revision of history going on definitely as his first spell was a success, but it goes the other way as well and his obvious flaws are being ignored.

I’d be disappointed with the appointment, but will back him begrudgingly and hope to be proven wrong.

 

You have a clear hatred for Rodgers we all get that and are all entitled to our opinions on the situation.

EPL fans are the most self righteous * ever look at the spurs fans towards Ange when they heard he was coming from Celtic etc was like tinpot my nan could win the League blah blah so excuse me if I take what they say with a pinch of salt and use my eyes and brain to make an observation.

2 5th place finishes a 8th place finish an FA Cup win with a team who had no right to be punching that high up the table with all the other sides in that league and money spent.

the owners sold his 3 best players and leader in Kasper Schmeichel an aging Vardy who they wouldn’t let him replace he had next to no money to refresh that Leicester team after those 3 good finishes with them.

He also took them to a European Semi Final something we would all love to be in. Improved players like Barnes, Justin, Maddison, Tielemans, Dwesbury-Hall Ichenacho got the best out of Vardy.

Went toe to toe with the best managers in the game and more than held his own with a team who should have been finishing mid table at best.

I’m not telling you to like him at all but looking at everything this type of manager wouldn’t normally come to a club like Celtic with his CV we’d all be ecstatic with this calibre of manager.

He’s a top level coach and manager who will improve us and with the right structure they’re talking about his professionalism is up there and with him working with the new way we do transfers I don’t see it being as bad as you make out.

4 years on from leaving us what’s to say he’s not improved as a manager as from the stats and finishes above in the hardest league in the world it’s hard to argue against that statement.