Who Calls The Shots Regarding Players Going In & Out?

Yeah, but Lennon isn't Deila. I believe he's been brought in partly because he's the kind of coach who'll be happy working under these circumstances.

I also think that this way of working is probably at least partly to blame for Lennon leaving.

I'd say it's more a case of the manager identifying a type of player and Lawwell and Park bringing someone in who fits the criteria.

 

The departure of Watt is certainly down to the Manager Ronnie . Deila has to exert his authority and show that his determination to show the young players how much he wants them to succeed . In his very short time with us he has showed he is prepared to give youth a chance even in important games . He has also showed that he won't tolerate behaviour that is not in the interest of all his players . Hopefully he won't have to do it with other players young or more experience .
Of course when I said months ago that Watt would never again play a competitive game for Celtic.
From his Airdrie manager , Neil Lennon , Ronnie Deila and the Scottish under 21 manager as well as his club manager in Belguim last season , all have criticised and found fault . Its reasonable to imagine that he was got rid of by a manager . Celtic did well to get £1.2 m
as if R Keane had been his manager he would have been singing about his faults at every
Media meeting and thus we would have got nothing .
So many fools posted hate posts aimed at me for saying months ago he would never play a competitive game for Celtic . Foolish young man, a couple of years ago he had the world at his feet but he chose to go another road .

 

Peter 'world wide brand' Lawwell

 

You don't think lenny started off exactly the same? Was his first big sale not mcgeady?

Proper change of goal posts from you, you practically ridiculed and laughed at me over my school of thought over our signing policy and what goes on behind the scenes when i said pl calls EVERY shot and certainly the final shot..
Now this, at least you came round in the end..

 

It's interesting the cultural difference between the way football clubs operate and the way they do sports in America.

For example, in the NFL or in baseball it is totally accepted that the team manager will have minimal(if any) input into which players are signed. His only job is to manage the players he gets handed down to him and mould them into a winning team. Yet in this country we have all grown up with the idea that the manager is the man who should decide which players he wants to sign.

Maybe in time we will see the American style becoming the norm in football too.

 

Uncle Pete.

 

I'd imagine it'll be something along the lines of a continuously active scouting network that is constantly updating a database of talent from around the World. This database will be scrutinised by the hierarchy of the scouting system and assigned some kind of value or ranking.
This scouting database will be used, as well as managers/coaches personal scouting knowledge, to identify targets. These targets will then be watched first-hand by scouts/coaches/manager. If a target is identified by the manager it'll be passed on to Lawwell who will be in charge of the business side of transfers and final say. Lawwell's priority is the overall management of the club so will obviously be constantly looking for the best deals - so if a manager wants an unproven £7m striker he'll most likely veto the transfer.

I'm sure there will be other aspects with agents offering players, other clubs offering loans etc

tl;dr Lawwell calls the shots on signings.

 

Not convinced RD wants Watt to go, put it that way.

 

Probably close to being bang on there. If that's the case it would've been made abundantly clear to Ronny before he was appointed and I imagine he'd have been more than happy given his history of working under financial restrictions and promoting youth at Stromgodset.

 

I remember Lennon saying he was happy enough with that sale as he wanted money to rebuild the side, right?

Hold on, you're saying that I told you that Lennon called the shots when it came to signings and that Lawwell didn't have the final say? I ridiculed you for saying that?

Can you link me to that thread? I'm not sure that's exactly what I said.

As for changing the goal posts, I made a thread in May discussing the possible change of direction as far as how signings and the like would go. I felt that with Lennon gone they'd be looking to hire more of a coach than a manager, which they have in my opinion.

John Park has also been given a more prominent role, has he not?

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was Lawwell that was calling the shots on who is sold/bought. Seems to be the way that a lot of football teams are being ran these days which is pretty *. I'm probably simplifying it, but, unless I'm wrong, it was the decision of the manager to bring in whatever player he deemed fit with the budget he was given. Now, it seems to be all down to the Board on who comes in, who stays, and who goes.

 

I'm fairly sure RD decides who he wants, but PL decides the terms and the money and wages and all that jazz

 

Lenny said a lot of things, mcgeady would have been punted for over 9.whether.he liked it or not, that's exactly what happened..

It is what you said, i haven't a link to what thread, i remember Sean and padmill involved.either side of it as well, maybe one of them can remember the thread?

Yes he has, he still dosen't sign players though..

 

I think our latest signing answers the op question.
Has worked with the manager in the past..doubt it was anyone but ronny that pulled this one out of the hat.

 

Craig Gordon being linked before we have a manager and then signing suggests otherwise. Tony Watt going after one game under Ronny who said he was training really well suggests otherwise as well.

 

In all seriousness i think there will be many factors when we sell and everyone has some input.
But the biggest factor will be do we need the money and does the player want to stay of * off to the epl.
But i really really don't see a manager coming and working at a club where he has no say on who we sign.

Also on Gordon he was signed during the time when ronny was coming to us and didn't sign until after ronny had joined and maybe had a look at him.

 

Seems we're beginning to put in place a more European model.

Park is basically our director of football and Deila head coach.

 

same as every other club the chairman gets the final say whos in and whos out

 

Well, I don't think Jo Inge Berget is a Lawwell signing

The truth is it's a joint effort from the manager, the CEO and the scouting team. Lawwell will sign off on the financials and the negotiations.

 

I know for a fact Amido Balde was definitely not a Neil Lennon signing. A scout recommended him and Lawell went ahead with the signing, Lennon had absolutely no input.