When USA collapses

all three sides commited crimes, that cannot be denied.

though i doubt the western media will publish the UN document with id numbers [SIZE=+1]A/46/171 and S/25635 stating crimes against the serbian population.

they dont give a * about that, all they care about is making serbs as a people out to all be 'war criminals'. when the reality is there was war crimes commited on every side. the western media wont tell you that either.
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The people of the Falklands want to remain british, not really hard to understand.

 

muslim minorities against serbian aggression?

abdic's 20,000 muslims fought for the serbs in that war, ..minorities? the croats living in subotica in serbia never got touched, muslims in sandak never got touched, and many other minirities never got touched by the serbian police and army.

genocide? last i looked bih and herzeg bosna still exist..

 

i have no doubt that atrocities were commited on both sides,you live there and are therefore more informed on the serbian side of that,i will change my point to the fact that i feel the world will be worse off without america as a superpower,all the little people who talk about american imperialism,would they rather have a russian,chinese or muslim autocracy in control,let them speak out or demonstrate if they lived in one of those countries,let them speak about freedom,and civil liberties in moscow,bejjing or saudi arabia or iran,have a demo against the govt in north korea,see where it gets you.then wake up and smell the freedom

 

so I am guessing that the attacks on vukovar and sbrenica were not crimes by your standards and all those "civilians" were just croat or bosnian spies, while all sides commited unspeakable acts the serbs were in no way innocent victims.

 

serbs could live in peace in croatia.. but milosevic didn't want it.. he wanted ''great serbia'', and he started a war.. and in 1995 (before ''Oluja'') our president had offered some authonomy for serbs in croatia.. but they refused...
we took what is ours since 7th century...

of course there were crimes on every side.. but the biggest crimes (skabrnja, vukovar, srebrenica etc.) and most crimes were committed by serbian forces.. i know that lot of serbian people went to war because they were forced by military and so.. but there were a lot of fanatics who fought for ''great serbia'' as well..

 

All sides did commit unspeakable acts so why were Serbs the only one who got bombed? There were crimes in Vukovar, but also during "Oluja". There were crimes in Srebrenica, but also in all the Serbian villages around Srebrenica. Neither crime against humanity can be justified, therefore not even America's "merciful angel".

It's true about autonomy (the Z4 plan) and that is one of the biggest mistakes of Serbian people in history. Now about starting the war we'll never agree, so let's keep it that way.

Maybe so, but for the similar actions in Kosovo, Serbia was bombed.

 

Never mind the collapse of the USA. if Iran gets the bomb it will probably
mean Armageddon and the End of the World

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i agree, this is celtic forum.. and we are all here because of celtic...

kosovo war was threat to stability of the region.. that was probably how NATO consider it, so they did what they did... milosevic probably wasn't helping the situation either.. NATO are far from being saints or smth, they will act only where they have their own benefits..

 

no it wont, iran will not launch an unprovoked attack on anybody, we will be the ones invading

 

Sure they wont, just like they were provoked into murdering kurdish woman and children, Iran doesnt have the capabiliy to strike anywhere but isreal so the most realistic senario is a small cold war between them

 

I think we should just all agree we have different opinions on a wide range of topics but we all agree on one thing, Rangers suck.
Lets just close this whole thread before anyone gets banned, we have all gone way off topic anyway

 

you do realize that NATO is supporting the turkish forces who are doing the exact same thing at this time?

 

To an extent, there's already a cold war between Israel and Iran. If there were actually any direct confrontation between the two, it'd difficult to keep localised. Everyone knows the US will defend Israel to the hilt.

 

That's because the people are British, settled there after the UK took the islands. They are little more than classic filibusters. Not really hard to understand.

 

Didn't mean to insinuate that it would be a short affair. Just that the war would be different, it would be more bombing like with Serbia than occupation like with Iraq/Afghanistan. It would be about destroying the regime, not about building another one up.

 

how does being leftist make us in la la land. if it wasnt for us in la la land you'd be living in the Grosser-Reich right now

 

liberalism is insane to some people, they dont see it as a way forward, the think somehow conservatism is the way forward

you cant go to america and reinstate slavery, roll back women's rights, and whilst women were asking for those right, they were calling those who supported them communists, so which way is forward again?

obviously not the economic and social system they have no clue about

the source of this conservatism is through media manipulation and ignorance, ie, the protests against obama for LOWERING taxes for the middle-income bracket, it also comes from the lack of "culture" in these countries,

wait what? lack of culture? to most that would sound like bigotry, but alas it is not, america is a melting pot, all different cultures together but not one of them their own, bad people? of course not, a country without a distinct culture (at least by which the rest of the world views them)? you bet (edit here, i mean a percieved lack of culture, outsiders looking in, no disrespect to the yanks on here)

then comes the "movement," the group of people who beleive themselves to be true americans, angered to a frenzy by people like bill o'reilly and glen beck, people comparing liberals to the french and (even more laughably) canadians, because of the socialized health care system here

not that i like obama, trying to "revamp" the war in Afghanistan, as if its the "good" war instead of being a strong leader and pulling them out... hes a politician through and through

 

'Destoying the regime' much easier said than done. Because of the insular manner of NK, what constitutes 'the regime' is difficult to discern. Moreover, even if you somehow identified what it was you wanted to destroy, you'd soon find other problems -

I think if any country pre-emptively invaded NK, wiped out the party system and then left again, it would go down as one of history's greatest disasters.

The chaos in post invasion Iraq would be a picnic compared to what would happen.

So, IMO any country invading NK would have to have a very very strong commitment to rebuilding the country. Obviously South Korea would play a large part in this too but my point stands.