We're still being tarred with the same brush

The Boys Of The Old Brigade is about the original IRA simple. Same with The Broad Black Brimmer.

You say you don't need a history lesson.

 

you're absolutely right mate..singing pro-IRA songs has to stop home AND away..

 

As I have said before its hypocritical to say Celtic shouldn't be tarred with the same brush as Rangers. To then tar the volunteers with and the original IRA with the PIRA's deeds. Anyone who thinks the Volunteers and the Original IRA are scum need to read a history book.

 

No it doesn't.

 

The ignorance of other people is exactly that, their ignorance. Just because they don't understand it doesn't mean that it's wrong.

The fuss you boys are making over ONE chant that had it's first airing in years in extremely unusual circumstances for about thirty seconds is absolutely ridiculous. The chances of this chant becoming a regular are zero.

Singing about the IRA from the old days is completely fine, and as far as I'm concerned, so is singing about the Provos. If you don't like it, fine. I don't like the song 'Stand up if you hate Rangers' but I'm not 17 pages into a thread on that.

Are you boys seriously this bothered about 'what the animals say' ?

 

It doesnt matter if people do or don't know the history. It's the fact that any mention of the IRA = Terrorism in todays society.
These kind of song have absolutly nothing to do with 11 men kicking a ball about. Grow up and move on.
How many current Celtic player know about or give a monkeys about the songs you're singing? If you must sing, then sing songs to do with the players/management or pop songs.

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

The huns manage to spread their word and people who don't know the real story just assume he must have done something wrong to have been targeted. If you look over youtube all the comments are astonishing.

"He didn't deserve that. But when your an antagonising, provocative, trouble making, deplorable, abhorrent, horrible, little twisted * like Neil Lennon, you make yourself a target for mindless thugs. As such, I have zero sympathy. Learn how to conduct yourself better and maybe the hatred would die. No other Celtic manager has been subjected to this and it's no coincidence. On a side note, the 90 minutes of pro terrorist IRA singing from 3500 Celtic fans, who attacked the Police and Stewards"

It's received thumbs up and now at the top of the comments section. Those without backgronud knowledge will see that and assume Neil Lennon is a "antagonising, provocative, trouble making, deplorable, abhorrent, horrible, little twisted *" .. he did not explain why he thought that and I bet he couldn't back it up. It's sectarianism hidden under their pathetic excuse that he deserves it. They will say anything to excuse their irrational hatred of him. and THAT is why people think Lennon has done something wrong. People have not been informed of the real reason behind these attacks, and that's because of this pathetic backwards country and how nothing has been done about it.

 

So 99% of the fans on Wednesday were supporting their team wrongly don't talk rubbish.

By a lot of people singing about Irish patriots is wrong and the singing about the Irish war of idependance is wrong. By this logic singing about the Scottish war of idependance is wrong. William Wallace and Robert The Bruce were old time terrorists.

 

Even if it means a points deduction for our FOOTBALL club. Time to move on and leave the IRA to history where it belongs!

 

Not 99%

Man, the basic point is that it has nothing to do with football and shouldn't be giving the sport (SPORT, a game - not a * warzone!) a bad name.

 

It's not about what is right or wrong mate. Or what the animals say or don't say. They aren't even considered in this. It is about not potentially harming the wonderful reputation of our club. The songs aren't wrong in my opinion but where they are being sung is. It's not an appropriate place to do it. That is all i am saying. No one is saying we should forget our history, no one is saying we shouldn't celebrate it but let's celebrate what is relevant to our clubs history and to our team and leave the IRA songs to Republican events and functions where they are more relevant to what is going on. There really is no need for IRA references at a football match. Like i say, the songs in my opinion are not wrong, i just don't see the need in singing them when trying to support our players on the park. I'm not going to tell people what they can and can't sing at the games, but i'm trying to put across the view that by not singing them, we put ourselves in a stronger position to be able to distance ourselves from the old view that one is as bad as the other. Even though we know that singing IRA songs doesn't make that the case, people will still use it as a stick to beat us with. We weaken our position if we sing them because they have no relevance to what is happening on the park therefore people will come to the conclusion that the club is being use by fans simply to voice support for the IRA as opposed to supporting a football team. Refraining from singing them is NOT an admission that they are wrong, it's making a statement that we know what is appropriate and where it is appropriate. Let's leave IRA songs to places they will be appreciated by all who are there and where no one can use it as a tool to drag our club through the dirt and categorise us with the Bigots across the city.

We're better than that.

 

We should never forget history ever.

 

Points deductions ? Stop with the scaremongering.

And folk keep on banging on about our reputation. Well we've had a wonderful reputation for years, we've sung IRA songs for years as well. Our reputation has been built during a period where IRA songs would have been prevalent. Surely if IRA songs are so bad for our reputation, we wouldn't have the reputation which we currently do ?

 

Ignorant arseholes give the sport a bad name. If politics has no place in football we shouldn't sing The Fields Of Athenrye or Let The People Sing.

 

If there was a list handed out at the start of the season saying a particular song was banned, and if the support sang it there would definitely be a points deduction then I wouldn't sing it, and neither would 99% of the support, and I think you know that.

The point I am making though is that the ONE chant you boys are talking about was a complete one off in response to the terrible treatment of our manager on Wednesday night, rightly or wrongly, it will not happen again.

I don't think the SFA could ban the BOTOB though, how would they justify it? It isn't illegal, it isn't sectarian, it isn't racist. If they tried to deduct points for singing that I believe Celtic would have them laughed out of court.

If you actually listen to the Celtic support, very few IRA songs are actualy sung. BOTOB, Roll of Honour and Celtic Symphony (arguably) are the only ones, and none of them are offensive to any right minded person.

 

Excellent post mate

 

All those politicians founding football teams should give it a rest, eh?

...It has no place in football.

 

What you going on about now?

 

This is a wonderful post, agree with every bit.

 

every thread i go on the politics brigade are our in force saying no place in football. soon we wont be able to hold up banners saying scotland shame due to political reasons or singing i just cant get enough because it seems like we are mocking drug addicts.

some Celtic fans are going mad i feel.haha.

fields of athernry and boys of the old brigade are not song as much now for the political sense but te sense that they are our history.

NOW THAT WE HAVE SOLVED THE MYSTERY OF OUR SONGS NOT BEING BIGOTED OR ILLEGAL (ALTHOUGH MAYBE OFFENSIVE TO SOME) WE MOVE ONTO THE POLITICAL SCENARIO THAT WE ARE BEING TOO POLITICAL NO PLAC FOR THAT IN FOOTBALL. I WEAR A GREEN ANF WHITE HOOPED TOP WITH A CUB FOUNDED BY A MAN TO HELP IMMIGRANTS ITS QUITE EASY TO WORK OUT MY POLITICAL BELIEFS. IF SONGS SUCH AS BOYS OF THE BRIGADE OR FIELDS OF ATHERNY ARE NOT ILLEGAL OR SECTARIAN THEN I WILL SING THEM.

I AM JUST VERY HAPPY THAT THE SUPPORT HAS BEEN ABSALUTLY QUALITY ALL SEASON AND OUR FANS TURNING ON OTHER SUPPORTERS ISNT THE WAY TOGO!

apologies just realised i wrote in caps haha.