We'll be seeded 3rd if we reach CL group stages

It's 8 teams per pot so can only be 8 champions in pot 1.they're a lot of thing's to complain about the champions league but this isn't one of them tbh

 

Well Yeh it is if your team like celtic in and out of Europe who are champions and are put in pot four because of performances in europe then you get teams like leicster who hadn't kicked a ball and put ahead

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I'm also not a fan of the current Pot 1 arrangement because of the inconsistency... if it's so that champions are supposed to get a leg up, why is it only associations 1-7/8? If it's for group balance, then why aren't all seedings based on CCC? I mean, Monaco was a 4th pot team last year...

 

Monaco were in the 4th pot because they didn't play in Europe for best part of a decade before 2014/15. They would have been Pot 4 regardless.

 

No. They would have been in Pot 1 had they been French champions, which is the whole point of the last couple posts.

 

Yes they would have. I don't follow how that ties in with the discussion, though.

 

Feel free to re-read my post #63 in this thread.

 

I've read it several times. I still don't see the point you're making regarding Monaco.

 

Monaco I'm sure made the quarters at some point in last five years ?

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Don't know how I can be any more clear. The current pot seeding system is inconsistent because it provides an advantage only to some champions based on CCC while also failing to balance groups based on CCC.

No idea why you're so fixated on Monaco. It is only a current-year example of latter part of the above.

 

Oh. CCC is the country coefficient? It makes sense in that context. But I haven't seen that abbreviation used for it.

 

They did in 14/15, yes. But that was their first foray into Europe since 05/06. They didn't do much in 15/16 either. So they only had a couple of years of European football in their coefficient for this year's draw.

 

fair enough, but i think the argument put forward is that they had to win a league far harder than ours so it makes sense this would be rewarded. if you put all the champions of weaker leagues in pot 2 it would just make pot 2 seem like the real pot 4. so wouldnt really benefit us as would just end up with teams from spain etc as the bottom seeds

also this new system means that the team who is pot 1 could end up being the champions of russia, portugal, ukraine or france. which is less daunting than barcelona! so when compared to how it was a few years ago, it is potentially easier for us

 

Just looking and some of our players will only have a 4 week break between Cup final and start of CL qualifiers due to playing for their country in WC qualifiers.
The rest not called up will have 6 week break unless Celtic have summer tour.
Just checking other seeding as well and we really need to have an excellent season in Europe this coming season as the following season for the moment we start of in 1st rd qualifying.

 

Yeh but how did that league get ranked higher by uefa putting in place a ranking system on how teams do in europe to then go against that with that rule is only making it harder for other leagues to catch up

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St johnstone and Aberdeen hopefully get their fingers out this will be tommy wrights 4 th foray into Europe no excuses he better have his team ready meaning player back early and ready to go same with aberdeen but I think their squad will be stronger than last season so hopefully a good draw

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Apparently we aren't affected by other Scottish clubs European participation anymore.

From what I've read on here it's every man for themselves now.

 

The way it should have been from the very start

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Our club coefficient (CC) will no longer be affected by other Scottish clubs, but country club coefficient still determines the round in which we enter qualifying. So our seeding in the group stage will likely be improved, but where we enter the tournament will/can still be held back by poor Scottish performance in Europe.

Also, remember that from 2018-19 onwards, UEFA's statements so far have only 4 teams qualifying for GS from Champions Route (instead of the 5 currently). So yes, while under the new system we would have been a Pot 3 team in GS this year, certainly this is not a net positive change - especially since we are already a top seed in qualifying even under the old system (guaranteed 2nd this year, for example). If there is no benefit during qualifying, then it's better to increase the chances of qualifying rather than care about where we're seeded once we do.

It seems ages ago that Scotland was top 10 in country club coefficient and we had an automatic berth in the group stage...

 

When we were top ten people and even our own fans still called our countries football *

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