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Trivial Things That Annoy You Thread

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  1. packybhoy Administrator Administrator

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    That is such a good generalisation of Belfast bru pickers.:57::56:
     
  2. clonbhoy

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    How do you know said * are able to find work? There is a big difference between being able to work and not working. There a whole myriad of reasons why people might not work; I am sure you have vetted them on all relevant criteria?
    There is also the stigma of being unemployed, which you are adding to in your post. I take it you have never been unemployed for a long time? I have, albeit through illness, and I know that while it wouldn't be my cup of tea to refer to it as 'payday', it is merely bravado to get through the stigma that comes with being seen as a 'lazy *'. It will merely be a type of gallows humour, and, as a result of being sneered at, a defiant pride.
    Sure, there is probably a small minority of people who actually enjoy sitting around and watching rich * buy properties in Herefordshire and Wales on the telly whilst sipping on Frosty Jack's, but the reality is most people are doing it to get through their existence.
    We have developed a culture where we blame 'benefit scroungers' and 'immigrants' for almost everything, when the reality is much further from the truth, but that doesn't suit the tabloid's narrative. Far less is made of tax evaders and avoiders than a few outlandish examples where Charlene from Oldham is getting 40k a year in benefits and using this to claim that this is "why they all wanna come ovah 'ere'", when in reality, if immigrants wanted to be unemployed, they would be far better going elsewhere.
    It is also helping create a distinct social class who are being treated, and by default feeling, subhuman and worthless, which leads to further snobbery, particularly from people for whom, if things had just been a little bit different, could have been in the exact same situation. Playing the poorest against those in the financial bracket just above is the oldest trick in the book and has been going on since time began, it doesn't make it any less frustrating or upsetting.
    The working poor are played against the unemployed and then the unemployed are played against immigrants with the winners being the people allowed to avoid and evade tax.
    The following is a decent article on this matter. http://www.theweek.co.uk/62461/benefit-fraud-v-tax-evasion-which-costs-more

    I know that your point was just on seeing the '*', but as I assume you're in full-time employment, would you consider your life and standard of living to be better than theirs? If so, just be grateful for how your life is and don't look down on how those less fortunate than you try to get through their misery.
     
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  5. clonbhoy

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    Do only people who mention the term 'PC' are normally people who don't understand it, but claim to despise it. What is so annoying about the 'PC Brigade'?(sic).
     
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    I think most people know exactly who we are talking about here. My sister is one of them and I wouldn't look down on them, I would put them * down.
    They don't want to work and that's all there is to it. I know enough of them to know that.
     
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    And why do you think 'they don't want to work'? It is far, far more complex than the simple solutions you are putting forward, which is only dehumanising people further, including your own family. I find that train of thought pretty sickening to be honest.
    Nobody sets out in life to be a social pariah and treated like scum, there is a reason for everything and to just dismiss it so offhand is just idiotic.
     
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    What do you think that annoys everyday people about the PC Brigade,why not sit down and think about it,or do you live in a Bubble,or maybe you are in the PC Brigade,if so what are you a Captain??
     
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    What is undeniable is that some people are just lazy and have a sense of entitlement. These are the people we cannot stand. Parasites.

    And no I'm not saying everyone who doesn't work/everyone on welfare is a parasite or like the above.
     
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    The fact that you couldn't answer the question actually answers my question, by default at least. If by being in the 'PC Brigade'(sic) you mean I am in favour of the advancements that have been made in how we treat people of different sexualities and ethnicities over the past few decades then you can call me the Lieutenant Chief Commander if you want.

    Back on topic; unnecessary capitalising of words.
     
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    Everyone has a sense of entitlement; in professing that others have one, you're actually professing you're own.
    There is no doubt some people are just lazy, but where does this laziness come from? And why is it only lazy people from certain social classes that get vilified as 'parasites'. Would you not agree that this 'laziness' comes from education, or a lack of it, and a lack of opportunity in life rather than just choosing a pretty * existence because it is easy?
     
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    Every part of me is left mate, even my right foot.
     
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    You'll hear me calling the Royals parasites, too, so for me it's nothing to do with social class.

    I'd say it's definitely to do with education which is why I value that so highly. Some people are willing to better themselves, however, and some people just aren't. They're content to pick up their dole money and not bother to find work. We should be encouraging people away from wanting to spend their life on welfare.
     
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    This for me, too.
     
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    Sorry my mistake,just got my Binocs out,yes you are spot on,i can see your 2 left feet,2 Left eyes and 2 left hands and 2 left ears from here!:56:
     
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    It isn't just the royal family, huge sections of the British aristocracy don't work and do nothing for society but they are classed as 'socialites' who live 'jet-set' lifestyles while avoiding as much tax as possible, you don't see them being vilified in the Daily Mail and Express though.

    The rest of your post is actually a contradiction in terms. The reason people don't know how to "better themselves" is a lack of education. If you are brought up by people who didn't work, there is a far greater chance that you won't work. Education isn't just in a classroom, although if you are underprivileged in the UK, then your formal education will most likely be poor to.
    They may be 'content' to pick up their dole money, but many know no different and will have a mental block about even getting work because of attitudes like yours.
     
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    The world is not black and white,far from it,a number of educated people drop out of the system for various reasons and there has always been the problem with people allowed to have countless children which are paid for by the state.
    Both the main Parties have failed in making work pay for many as in society it has worked out that a lot of hard working people are worse off than people on benefits.The whole thing is one big mess and has been for generations and on top of that mess as you rightly have pointed out the rich who take advantage of their position.
    There are many reasons why people do not work,mental illness being a huge reason and that is when people really need help and luckily that is far more recognised than in the past.
     
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    That's just not true, hence why some people do better themselves.