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Totally Unacceptable

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by The The Hand, Nov 24, 2012.

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  1. joemc

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    I was at the game and after 20 mins i could see the game was going the same way that the killie game went ,we pushed them back and they stayed there only hitting on the break, our big problem is we are not passing the ball well.
    we were also very poor against benfica and the big problem ther was passing ,i looked at they way we played and thought we were like an average spl side , back to the ict game the players seemed to be giving sammy pelters for not running into space to receive .
    The more worrying aspect of yesterdays game was when they broke away almost to score a second and really shoulda ,there were a few players who let them go and didnt chase back only when the fuked up the chance did they try to get back.
    I think we are really missing stokes and hooper has not played as well without him nor has the team for that fact ,but that doesnt have anthing to do with how we cant pass .
    Maybe we are missing the width and pace of forrest although he is of form to, we seem to slow in our passing when going forward and dont play any instant passes to catch out teams defending in numbers, the solution to this is get an early goal.
     
  2. slippy

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    Lennon needs to stop moaning and start sorting these lazy * out. There is no doubt they are better players, but the attitude is nothing short of disgraceful. That is the managers job, sort it out Lenny, and soon.
     
  3. Doire_Bhoy

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    This is unfortunately also true.
     
  4. Dubliner1

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    Are some people not living in the real World coming out with nonsense that were still top etc. There is NO Sevco in our league. We are NOT competing on a level playing field. Our Budget is massive compared to Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, etc. We are under achieving in the SPL. We have dropped 17 points this season already. We only dropped 21 points in the whole of last season. Lennon needs to sort this out quickly. I don't care if we're doing well in Europe the results in the SPL are DISGRACEFUL. The fans are turninga way in their thousands due to the poor style of football were playing. We can only play counter attack football. There is too much tippy tappy football at Celtic Pk. It's fooking boring to watch. If it's cold weather are supporters going to keep turning up to get not only frzen but bored watching this crap. I didn't even go yesterday. I give my 2 season tickets to the brother in law. It's NOT acceptable the way we are currently playing. The BUCK STOPS with Neil Lennon
     
  5. CelticBhoyDavid

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    This is very true because he made some changes when we played Kilmarnock I think it was and I remember people moaning in the match thread because he changed the team around a bit so he couldn't use the "players were tired" excuse.

    It really is a no win situation sometimes...he changes the team around and some people moan because he plays players who have hardly played. When he doesn't change the team around he still gets it in the neck for not rotating.

    So are you saying that we are performing * in the league only because there is no Sevco/huns? They were in it last season and look how we were performing at the start of the season - not much better than what we are at the moment, yet we still went on to win the league at a canter.

    And? Chelsea's budget is astronomical but when was the last time they won the Premiership? The value of our starting 11 against Barcelona a couple of weeks ago was about £7m - Barca's starting 11's value was about £180m - yet we still won 2-1 (and only JUST missed out on a very credible draw at the Nou Camp). Having a huge budget compared to other teams guarantee's sod all.

    The majority of those points we dropped last season were around the same time as this because from November last season we went on an amazing run of games to go catch the filth and then went top of the league on 28th December. Then we carried that form on, even when the huns went into administration in February.

    I'm not saying the form isn't bad for us at the moment but there were lots of knee-* reactions this time last year and look how it went.

    I'll judge how the SEASON goes overall for us come May.
     
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  6. KhBhoy

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    He said at the beggining "Any player that think they'll walk it will be dropped"
    Pish why are they still being played?
     
  7. McManus4

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    I'm not worried, because I'm confident we'll eventually turn it around and hopefully retain the title.

    What I am gutted about is how bored I've become at Celtic Park in the SPL. No creativity, certainly nothing that gets me off my seat.

    Stokes and Forrest will bring a bit more excitement back but I said at the start of the season we are crying out for an attacking midfielder - someone to unlock defences and run at players.
     
  8. Artur Boruc #1

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    We'll win the league but that's no longer the point - those paying their hard earned are being cheated when the players decide that they can't be * performing in the bread and butter games. They need a right good boot up the * to shake them out of this misplaced complacency.
     
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    I don't have the money/the opportunity to buy a season book, so I buy other things from the club when I can and always buy from the super store.

    I have to admit, this last month and a half has been extremely draining as a fan to watch. I was willing to allow for a couple bad games in a row, but the league has been absolutely unwatchable lately.
     
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    I'm heading home for Xmas and going to the Motherwell game.......I hope tae' f*ck Lennon has put a rocket up their * by then and starts to rotate the squad.

    Sort it oot.
     
  11. The The Hand

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    Surely if you read my first post (which you seem to have done) you know that our league position is not what the "totally unacceptable" applies to, and not what the thread is about at all?

    Well, speaking purely for myself, that's not true.

    If Lenny rotates players and we don't win, I won't criticise him for rotating, because I will understand why he has done it. And the more game time the underused players get, the more likely they are to be successful the next time.

    This is bang on. We struggle to break down teams who park the bus. We seriously need a creative playmaker in the centre. Personally, I think Twardzik, McGeough and McCourt are all capable of playing this role.

    But regardless of who it is, Lenny needs to assign someone to the job. If he genuinely doesn't think any of our existing squad are capable, then he needs to get in someone who is.
     
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    How many comps have celtic been KO'd from this season?
     
  13. Haywood Jablomi

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    I think i read here that Celtic have scored 2 goals in the last 4 league games at home. Then i read Lennon is arguing with fans during the match. Who was it that said he will bring the thunder back to Celtic Park! Hardly inspiring stuff if you paid for a season ticket.
     
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    Pay a small fortune to watch a bunch of rich arseholes put in little effort and don't give a * is beginning to grate on me. Hooper's lack of effort on Saturday was actually disgusting - he couldn't give two *. Lennon got it all wrong with both his original selection and his substitutions. Watt needs to stay on the pitch - even Hooper should remain on the pitch at 1-0 down. He took off our 2 strikers, replaced them with a guy who is clearly in agony when he plays and McCourt - a guy that has done * all in years. Bitterly disappointed to read what Lennon has said and the supposed heated argument at the end - lacks professionalism. As has been said, Lennon needs to learn to take the good with the bad. Improvement is necessary - Lassad and Watt should start on Wednesday - Hooper needs dropped.
     
  15. sdickson

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    they all need to give themselves a shake lenny included,there all millionaires and have great lives,sometimes they think they just need to turn up and not do much,every team in this league wants celtics scalp and are running themselves in to the ground,we havnt been matching this attitude and no wonder we have been losing points lately
     
  16. johnnybhoy89

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    i think what is "totally unacceptable" is this level of criticism of our manager and players when we are top of the spl and still in every cup competition including the champions league in which we are looking to progress into the last 16 :(
     
  17. Sween

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    This is sadly how I see it. I am almost always a defender of celtic on here in general and I think too many people criticise too often when it comes to football. I can put up with watching a poor celtic team, and I can put up with poor results. I can also put up with getting unlucky or going through a bad patch. These things are all part of the game and something you must get used to if you have watched football long enough.

    But what I wont tolerate is a lack of effort. And like you I really feel the players are taking the * at the moment. I dont believe for a second most of those playing against ICT were gutted as they walked off that park on saturday, and I dont believe most of them could hand on heart say they put in 100% effort. When you have 45000 people paying £30 a ticket to support you, the very least any professional should do is try their best. At the moment I think we are being short changed and I think that is why there is such a feeling of frustration among our fans.
     
  18. Doire_Bhoy

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    To be fair to the poster you replied to I completely agree with his point that Lenny is a no-win situation with squad rotation. Squad rotation must happen, but we can be in no doubt that Lenny would be called a numpty by a good few posters on here if the results of any squad rotation did not match their sky-high expectations and demands.

    I imagine that if Lennon had rotated the squad as demanded for the ICT match and if we had then beaten them 1-0 instead of losing 0-1 many would say that if we had used the squad that played against Barca or Benfica it would have been 5-0.

    I am a strong advocate of squad rotation. It would not silence the critics, however. Nothing does.
     
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  19. Doire_Bhoy

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    Some are. Kayal, McCourt, Ambrose and Lassad all showed great spirit against ICT.

    It should be a simple matter of dropping any player that takes the * and replacing them with one who displays a better attitude but the lack of performance-related squad rotation has enabled a don't-give-a-* culture among the regular starting XI.
     
  20. charliebhoy81

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    i dont usually get involved in the football debates,unless im calling rod stewart names:52:

    But come on to buggery why all this now?

    Were top of the league and have a great chance of progressing to the last 16 of the Champions League,so simple question really.........

    What more do ye fekin want?:97: