Tony Mowbray [threads merged]

We go 4-2 up great. Why not bring on Mf players to make it harder to play through us instead of having 3 cf on the pitch?.

I know some will blame Brown or N'Guemo but we were outnumbered in Mf. If you want Kamara's natural position, check where he was when he scored! He's a cf. Brown made a great run for the second and made a goal saving challenge in the second half. Ki is a luxury player withe 3 up front, can't go in for a 50/50. We should have taken off a forward but hindsights a wonderful thing

 

because heinsite is a wonderful thing, i guarantee you when went 4-2 up you were thinking yas 5 or 6 goals could be on the cards no one grumbled when subs were made we though great rassa il get 1 and an run out for ki n sammy

who we gonae bring on wilson and naylor yehhhaaaa

 

he brought samaras on for his height because he knew aberdeen would be flying crosses in at the end he didnt bring him on to score , sure he * said this after the game and yet there are still people asking why , we drew this game because 3 of our 1st choice defenders were injured and the only replacements were crap thats why imo not because he brought samaras on !!

 

Because we are 20 goals behind in goal difference

 

I have to say that for the first time this season my viewpoint towards Tony Mowbray is changing, during the week we were given a real chance to get back into the title race, however we've probably blown it for the last time today.

Whilst I'm forced to agree that it's not the manager's fault when players get injured and his selection is restricted, but I really expected him to address the obvious defensive short-comings which have blighted us from the start of this season and half of last year, we've really not bought wisely in this area.

As an ex-centre half you would expect TM to be able to advise and organise our backline regardless of who is selected, but this lot of defenders are absolutely shocking, their decision making is terrible. At times it looks as if they don't know what each other are doing, there's no basic tactics or positional sense, what the * do they do all week at Lennoxtown, please telll us Tony, it's becoming one of lifes great mysteries.

To lose a 4-2 lead to this Aberdeen team is ridiculous, eight goals shipped in our last two visits to Aberdeen, have we learnt anything, obviously not !!!

We're turning into a complete laughing stock, the clock is now ticking Tony .

 

Haha, might have said that at heat of the moment when I got in but that will be your catchphrase for the remainder of the season:icon_mrgreen:

 

you got what you wished for

So many fans for the sake of the style of football and one wobble at the end of 4 years of nothing but success hounded out a born winner in exchange for a football dreamer who has won nothing of note but who played the Celtic way and was a Celtic man. Well I think Mogga has delivered exactly what I expected: some nice losing attacking football. People say well we lost last year but we were on top until the very end and blew it very late on. We were not sitting double figures away from them with their lead slowly stretching. Make no bones about it. This is Celtics worst season by a mile in 10 years. In fact its probably the worst since early 90s. The real disgrace of it is we have gone from a team with some probelms but a basic winning mentality who were always there or thereabouts to a catostophic team who lose everything...and the crazy thing is the dismantling of the old team (who I think would have won the title this year) and the creation of this lot is a deliberate act by a man who put a vision ahead of pragmatism and winning.

 

We wasted time chasing Keane on the last day, when we had already signed Kamara and Ras, wot we needed was two CB's 1 at the very least. Cramming all were buisness into one or two days meant contract negotiation issues like Ramis agent being a greedy dobber couldny be sorted because there was no time. Poor organization and lack of quality in the defensive area has murdered us this season. teams like Kilmarnock and st. mirren have shown us that average players organized are hard to break down. Organisation falls at the feet of the manager

 

and is completely unapologetic about it as well. just focused on taking it on the chin and moving forward

 

Board must take some of the blame? Are you actually having a laugh mate?

Being a defender himself, you'd have though Mowbray could set up a good defence, but he couldn't organise a * up in a brewery with that mob.

 

wat do we expect from Tony Mowbray?? he's not proved himself at a high level in management , so why r we surprised we're playing crap??

 

I've said before-nice football means nothing without results. We aren't getting any. Idealism can't work in the SPL, not yet.

 

Actually in England he had a good reputation and the fans of the clubs he managed still idolise him. He got got southhampton to a cup final and left them in the top half of the table when he quit. You really cannot do much more than that with wee teams in the EPL. Celtic was his first job where there was any realistic chance of winning things and he really could not be faulted. He has tuned it round at Borough and within 2 points of the playoff slots and the fans there like what he has done in the window. The difference is he has used the window well while Mowbray and Lawell have made a balls of it by leaving us weak at the back.

 

Actually I do not want this to become a Strachan thread. BE WARNED. SO NO POSTING PISH ABOUT THAT My point is we didnt look for the right replacement. We looked too much at the Celtic way and the Celtic man. That idealogy has hampered us so much in the past. This is not Spain. We play in a place where football is tough, organised and the pitches are tatty fields for half the season. We needed a pragmatic tough manager who knows the limitations of SPL football and is not an idealist. I am convinced if we had got Levein he would simply have signed a LB, a couple of CBs and a poacher and left it at that and we would have won the league.

 

Totally agree hope the Strachan out brigade are happy. For months they prattled on about the need to be 'celtic-minded' As a result the board felt tat they needed to employ someone Celtic-minded in the summer and has resulted in Mowbray, a joke of a manager who doesn't have a clue. With some patience from the fans and less pressure on the whole celtic-minded theory and we wouldn't have had to endure Mowbray. He has the mentality that he doesn't need to win as he has never really needed to win before, minus the championship

 

I liked Strachan & didn't really see why we got rid of him, but unfortunately we have to face facts, & we do have Tony Mowbray now..

The way I see it Mowbray won't change his style of play, he has his philosophies on how football should be played, its not just the first team that are being asked to play this way, this philosphy is getting taught to all the sides, from the first team right down to the grass routes..

Mowbray has said on many of occasions it won't happen over night, but when it clicks the side will benefit from it in the long run, I spose he is right there, because Barca have all there academy's playing the same style as the first team, I know Barca are a better side than us, but to teach that to the kids at an early age is a good thing, & means the talent coming threw the ranks in the future, will be better passers of the ball & more comfortable on it, that doesn't help our cause for now I know, It is a long term project that Mowbray has in mind. Our fans aren't the most patient & to come in with a long term plan, won't be plain sailing if you aren't able to hit the ground running & bring success straight away.

Mowbray likes fast flowing attacking football, he is all about dominating games, he doesn't just want to beat a team with goals he wants to play them off the park & entertain all of us, & in games this season we have saw glimpses of this, but until it clicks we have to go threw games like today, I hope it clicks fast, I like the idea of us playing that way, but sometimes you would rather see us grinding out a win than surrendering 3 points..

The one thing I don't understand under Mowbray is, how can't we score last minute goals anymore? In Strachan's 4years, Celtic won 17 games from scoring last minute goals, apart from Sammy against Moscow & Loovens against Hearts, we don't seem to be able to do this anymore.

But to me it seems Mowbray has one way of playing & he will stick with it regardless, I don't like that idea, I think you should always have a plan B. The Strachan style of grinding out a win in a game when we haven't played well will probably never be played again (not that you want to see that all the time), but it was effective in getting 3 points on days when maybe we weren't at our best, where as now, if we don't play well, we dont get the points. Mowbrays vision sounds great, if he is giving time to get it into place & we do get to see it on the park will no doubt be great, but until then, we can't settle for throwing away leads that we should easily see out..

 

I know his answer to the question about 2 points dropped was after tomorrow it could be a point gained.so much for the old cliche we will concentrate on our own team.regardless of whether the Huns win or lose tom it was def 2 points thrown away tony

 

I know his answer to the question about 2 points dropped was after tomorrow it could be a point gained.so much for the old cliche we will concentrate on our own team.regardless of whether the Huns win or lose tom it was def 2 points thrown away tony

Exactly - for weeks Mowbray has told us it doesn't matter what Rangers do and that we have to just keep winning

 

Things have gone wrong this season not because gordon strachans away but because the right players havent been brought to the club ie A defender who can dominate the box and win headers from set pieces, We have been missing a bobo type of player

We have been very very unlucky on numerous occasions and some of the refereeing in this country has been a complete farce and utter discrace and probly corrupt, if i can remmeber the same ref giving the hunns 2 last minute penalties this season, there has been countless descions which have baffled me and us, call it paranoia!! ffs what do they expect when you watch some of these desicions that go for them

We are creating numerous opertunities and at times early on in the season were not taking them, now we are taking them and are looking a * defencive mess at the back, clearly some things are not getting done on the training field, if they were we wouldnt be leaking goals like we are at the back, ffs a would probly score goals against that defence there that bad.


The facts of the matter are we havent won 3 games on the bounce all season/ from a celtic point of view that is utter atrocious, and unbelievable and probly the worst run i have ever witnessed and it is no were near good enough

today was very sore to take, we just keep blowing it and blowing it

 

The guy hasn't even had the chance to play his preferred starting 11 yet!! he has been seriously unlucky with injuries. It was time for a serious squad clear out (okay maybe January wasn't the ideal time to do it) but it did have to happen. The big problem is that both O'Neill and Strachan took over run down teams and managed to win the league in their first season......this isn't always going to be the case as we are finding out and personally I feel it is make believe to think otherwise. We have got to give mogga until the end of the season(win or lose the league) to show us with hopefully his strongest 11 on the park that he CAN produce the goods and if not then maybe some decisions will have to be made.