time for mowbray to go? [Threads Merged]

TM wants new players who play football the way he wants, to me this is very negative.

1, he clearly is a manager who has only 1 system
2, he needs good players to actually achieve anything (anyone can do tht)
3, he cant get the best out of the players we have just now

 

How much would Dan Petrescu cost?




aye. maybe persuade him tae get the boots back on. lol

 

There is no point in talking about the manager going so Why do we continue to discuss it. Financially it is not possible for us to let go of him.

He cost 2mil to get in. To let go you are probably looking at another 2 mil. Then there is the players he brought in, a new manager may not like them so that is another 6mil so there it is. 10mil in total. Im sorry if people dont want mowbray there but without huge financial backing it is hard to turn a team round. He has been left a really poor squad and the only thing to do is try to improve that squad. The Korean guy is coming, then this Chavez guy we are looking at and hopefully a decent striker.

Im willing to give him time.

Calling for his head after 6 months is outrageous

 

It hasn't even been 6 months mate.

Once again, well done for being willing to show a bit of patience. If only there were more like you.

 

i ve called for Tonys head on match days straight after defeats,on the other hand i would love to see a full tony mowbray quad on the park and that takes time, i want the league back this season, simple.but do we have a squad that can do it? i dont know, time will tell and to tell you the truth i dont know what i want at the minute ffs.i just wish he would stop tinkering, get the balance right NOW drop the duds and progress from here on

 

1, TM has played various formations with us this season.
2, of course you need good players although to say anyone can do it is wrong, Venglos had Larsson, Moravcik, Mjallby, Lambert and others but never won the league.
3, you can't polish a * as someone once said.

I'm not too impressed with things at the moment either but TM needs a fair crack of the whip. The end of the season at least.

 

i bet u didnt think the players were * when they won 3 in a row.... same players - 2 or 3

 

The bad ones i did. Winning the league doesn't automatically make you a great team it has to be taken in context, the SPL is * poor. There are only about 6-8 players in the current squad who i would call good players, players that can be relied upon week in week out.

 

i do have paitence! but this can only last for so long!and thats a dig not to mowbray but these uderacheivers we call celtic players. mowbray will get it right! he has to.

 

It's that * poor that we are trailing Rankers, just been beaten of Dundee Utd and drew with Falkirk in our last 2 games and only 2 pts clear of 3rd/4th. So how * poor are we then.

 

Very.

 

Look at what mowbray did with hibs and west brom(in the championship anyway)
He is the man for the job if everyone would just give him some time to get his own players in.

What was everyone expecting when mowbray came in , for us to be like barca ?
the mans a football manager not a * wizard

 

Mowbray inherited one of the best squad of young players to come out of Scotland in years, all credit for that should go to Bobby Williamson and Donald/John Park (cant remember which one it was) who scouted them and prepared them for Hib's 1st team. As for WBA he spent 30 odd million and got them relegated. If you think he is the man for the job you obviousley were not at the Falkirk & Dundee Utd games.

 

He is the man for a certain type of football but he has never won anythng to speak of. Why on earth would a club like us give a novice like him a top job like Celtic manager. Crazy. Its all very well saying he will make us better if the club shells out on 4 quality players. That is always going to be true but it tells us nothing about Mowbray. I do not think there has ever been such a big gap in the successes on the CV of the Celtic and Rangers managers. Certainly not since big Jocks time. Its a guy who has won nothing other than the championship against a guy with nearly 10 SPL titles, years of EPL experience, loads of Euro experience including a recent UEFA final, intenational management experience with credit etc etc etc. The club should be ashamed pitching Mowbray in against that.

 

While I'm not to say exactly how good a manager big TM, I do have to say that it's naive to write off winning the Championship. That is a horrible league to win - takes a better manager to win that than win the SPL.

 

I'm extremely disappointed in Celtic so far. this season has been absolute rubbish - but I'm willing to give TM at least one or two seasons.

WGS has been spoiling us with SPL trophies and success. I wrote when WGS took over the team that I was willing to give him 2 seasons to build a team. I didn't expect him to win the league in his first season! But he did it! His legacy is really hard, when not almost impossible to beat. 3 titles in 4 years. 3 in his first 3 seasons.

the bad side of success - he has spoiled us, brainwashed us. we can not expect Celtic to win the league all the time. but what we can expect is a Celtic team, that is fighting 101% and gives everything in every game.

As I said, give the man and the team some patience. allow them some more time than just 6 months. yes, we might not win the league. of course I want us to win everything, but in reality that is not possible.

Plus, TM has been a manager for like 5 years so far. I don't find the "he has not won 5 trophies yet"-argument reasonable.

 

Should Celtic have even considered a manager who has only 5 years under his belt, has one nothing except promotion and has only one season at EPL level? I actually do not blame Mowbray as much as the club. If he was the best option they would have been better getting some 70 year old manager in as caretaker until someone was free.

 

Strachan brought in the worst pool of players we've ever had, don't blame TM for that. He also got out before he was sacked. You also have to remember this board has been downsizing for the last umpteen years.

TM now has the task of trying to make a football team out of this lot. Football, remember that game you never seen any of Strachan's team playing.

Given soe time and money TM will do a good job for us.

 

that's a good point. I don't know what behind closed gates so I can only assume. I spose TM has not been our board's first choice - don't know how many managers turned us down. may be he was the best man we could get. Sadly shows us what bad state we (and no-epl-football in general) are in.

 

We're cursed in attracting managers in the same way that we are with players. We cannot take Grade A managers and offer them wages to rival big countries or Premiership teams. For example in the late nineties/early noughties we might've been linked to Guus Hiddink or Otmar Hitzfield (just for argument sake). These kind of guys nowadays have gone to the likes of Korea/Russia and Switzerland which are fairly piddling international sides compared to the might of Celtic.

Similarly even in England, Coyle rejected us for Burnley (albeit maybe not money motivated) and Martinez went to Wigan. The bar has been dragged further and further down and this is in no way our fault.

So we have to gamble on up and coming managers as opposed to established greats like the aforementioned Hiddink or similarly credible guys. We have no choice that is why we have gambled on a trophyless manager, although the Championship was an incredible feat!