THIS IS WHY WE ARE 'PARANOID'!

I think to be honest, its all excuses. We should be mowing teams down home and away. However, we are simply not good enough at the moment. Celtics Penitly conversion rate this season is shocking so the penilties might not be goals. Even at that, one goal shouldnt have to make the difference against the likes ok St. Johnstone and Hamilton.

We deserve to be second just now in my opinion.

 

Im not defending decisions that go Rangers way but I am open minded enough to know that it isnt all one way traffic and that all teams are suffering as a result of the standard of referees. My Brother in Law (a Hun) has shown me a list of decisions he put together that could be interpreted as anti Rangers if they were paranoid enough to start claiming bias against them. Im sure very other team in the SPL could do the same if they were of mind to do so. I agree we have had some shocking decisions against us but we are too quick to shout cheat and claim there is an underlying influence and agenda against us. For instance, in last nights game Rangers had a goal ruled offside plus, i think it was Boyd was through on goal but it was judged to be offside also, the replay showed that he was clearly onside. If there was such a bias towards that lot they would have got both decisions or at least one of them. I dont hear them screaming about the unfairness of it all, and they just knuckled down and got on with it. It was a * game to watch and no great football played but they ground out a result, which we seem unable to do this season. How many times have we completely dominated a game this season only to walk away with one point or none. As for my comments re Aiden, i stand by what I said, he picks up way too many stupid bookings and should know better by now.

 

Show me the list or the stamp it's written on:icon_mrgreen:

For a so-called celtic fan you seem very eager to call us paranoid, Don't understand how you can say celtic haven't been hard done by this season or how you can say rangers haven't got off with an awful lot this season.

Some people can't get it through there head no one is making excuses i have been one of our biggest critics this season but even i can see how we have been put at a huge dis-advantage this season due to the shear numbers of decisions against us.

So stop spouting rubbish about how other teams have had the same di-advantage because that is just plain wrong, unless you can prove otherwise that is and back up what your saying?

 

Big Steve.


Name 5 decisions that have wrongly went our way this season, infact name 3.



For every one you name, I'll name 5 Hun ones.

 

agreed.
but does that mean because we have been poor and had to rely on the referees to make the right decisions we ignore the 18 point swing that poor decisions have sent in their favour?
if you got caught shoplifting and were given a life sentence for it would it be fair enough because if you hadn't shoplifted in the first place it wouldn't be an issue therefor its your own fault or would you be complaining that you were being too heavily punished by poor decision making from the authorities compounding your own failings?

 

i smell a hunnnnn

 

The part in bold, I agree 100%.

 

The whole tthing is so blatant it makes my blood boil.

There really is no undercover masonic plot. It's right out there in the open for all to see.

Always been like that, some times less sometimes more, but there's definitely a collusion and a bias that NOBODY can deny.

 

I don't understand why some Celtic fans feel that none of us should be shouting about the refereeing decisions and instead would rather discuss mcgeadys stupid yellow cards.

Yes, we should be winning games despite the poor decisions against us but that does that mean we should just turn a blind eye and say nothing about the suspiciously bias refereeing against us??

I think too many of you have it imprinted in your brains that you are automatically paranoid if you feel hard done to by referees because you are used to the constant 'paranoid celtic fans' remark as soon as you do.

Paranoia means that you believe in something with no true logic or reason, well you just have to look at all the statistics in the first post to see that there is complete logic and plenty of reason to justify thinking that certain referees are being ridiculously bias against us.

 

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I must have missed something this year cause I can't remember getting battered in Europe, probably the only team in Scotland that can say that TBO. There is a different with losing a game a getting battered and I think one would have to be bordering on giving up on us to think that was the case.

I think you have been brainwashed with your Rangers pals because as much as Rangers have maybe been unlucky once or twice, they have had more than their fair share of luck this season.

More to the point, Surly if you are saying that it will even itself out by the end of the season, taking that principle, then we should win the league by a canter come May if it does and lets face it, you must know as much as I do that it aint gonna.
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Even itself out that is, as I still haven’t given up on the league as yet.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with what you say here. And the club just sits and takes it too.

It's NOT paranoia. It's reall. It's the etsblishment backing the etsablishment's team.

Definitely NOT paranoia.

 

I agree that there is definate bias against us, however, I'd be hard pushed to say that there is out and out match fixing etc against us, but I will throw this out there...

Match fixing and referee bribing goes on in countries all over the world, most recently Portugal and Italy...

I've heard idiots like Jim Traynor piping up and proclaiming that we would be incredibly naive to think that anything underhanded is going on...I think we'd more naive in thinking that bribary and match fixing can't, won't or isn't happening in the SPL.

 

Nothing underhanded needs to happen as there will always be bigots.

 

I'm not too sure how to take that comment, I think you've maybe missed my point?

 

Why would bribery have to happen when there is so much hate for Celtic within Scotland?

Your not gonna have to bribe a referee that hates Celtic to disallow them a goal, they will do it anyway.

 

I agree with what you're saying but my comment's more of an analogy than anything else, the crux of my point is, that it would be incredibly naive to think that there isn't an agenda against Celtic, regardless of wether it's bigotry, match fixing, ref bribing etc. even though the media attempts to make you believe otherwise..., I wonder why?

 

Stuart Dougal got it spot-on with his remarks about the Motherwell incident last week,players should go against ALL instinct and WHAT pays their wages by not following in,from an ONSIDE position,to ensure the goal.After all it could obscure what the linesman actually sees,making him decide on the basis of what he WANTED to see!!He also was'nt trying to wind up half of Glasgow with his comment about "fancied the result as part of a fixed-odds double",because of course,the fact that a ref is really the only person on a pitch who can REALLY affect a result,was kind of small beer in his days as a grade 1 guy,and anyway I'm sure he only took up the bookies after he'd retired!! Food for thought anyone?

 

Did you drop your keyboard, mate? I didn't understand a * word of that.

 

Dougal said a player should'nt follow in-even from ONSIDE,because it confuses/shields the linesman's view,(RIDICULOUS).It also gives some almost endemic 'weight' to say that the official,if in any doubt,should find in favour of the Huns.
He also went on to mention how he had fancied a "fixed odds double",seemingly with Well' winning,so he "would'nt have liked the decision".And my irony stance has perhaps been lost a little here,but as a former 'top whistler',it would be nice to know,was this bookie thing a hobby of his,(given his position as the 1 person able to REALLY affect a game's outcome), while he still plied his refereeing trade?
My tongue was firmly in my cheek sir-hope this helps....HH

 

theres also the proven fact that refs in scotland are pure * and are probably in another world when they should be concentrating on the game, not just the blatant hunnery