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THIS IS WHY WE ARE 'PARANOID'!

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by jamiebhoy67, Feb 14, 2010.

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  1. jiko

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    There's a bit of clutching at straws in the article as well as other things that have been left out , both FOR and AGAINST us.. When we are highlighting off-sides being given against us , (And I've seen enough replays to tell you that Keane was off-side virtually each of those times against Hearts) it's like we are setting our own trap to fall into.. Our first real bad decisons of the season started against Arsenal.. I think we were due a penalty when Bendtner handled in his own box , I think Song should have been sent off for two blatant yellow card offences , and the dive in the 2nd leg from Eduardo put the contest to bed , so it's not just the SPL refs who've got the better of us , but I think it's time to move on now..
     
  2. shaunbhoy67

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    the videos provide good evidence but i'm fed up going on about it to be honest wats done is done weer not going to get the points back or anything soo pointless going on about it

    the dodds hand balls a brainbuster but
     
  3. MarcoVanBeasten

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    Move on?...Move on to what exactly? Another season after season of blatant cheating and 'meeja' ridicule? No thanks, I'd rather be part of the fight instead of being bent over and continuously shafted by the SFA, year after year.

    It's been proved, as recently as 2 years ago, that there is corruption in football (Bundesliga and Seria A, for example), You'd be incredibly naive if you thought that there isn't a chance it's going on here, especially after this season.

    By saying "let's move on", you're admitting defeat and in this situation, that is the completely wrong train of thought to be on.
     
  4. kennydal

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    Could this not have been posted in the Paranoid thread already on the go.
     
  5. MarcoVanBeasten

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    I'm sure we're all fed up going over it, mate, I know I am, but the fact is, unless we stand up and let it known that we will NOT be beaten down with jibes of being "paranoid" and that we will NOT let this be swept under the carpet as that's what's been happening for atleast "the last 50 years", quote courtesy of the greatest ever Celtic captain.

    I agree mate, it's tiresome, but this will be a battle of attrition. We cannot give in and let these cheats get away with it any longer!
     
  6. MarcoVanBeasten

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    I guess it could have, but as I said in the OP. This is a more upto date account and feel that it also provides a much needed "rallying call", if you will.

    By all means, feel free to merge the threads, mate.

    :50:
     
  7. shaunbhoy67

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    ano mate i feel the same but,but it will be swept under the carpet this season and next and next 1 after that and so on, no one cares about it except us celtic fans,no fans from any other club says or thinks we are hard done by so we are fighting a 50 year losing battle,and why would they pipe up saying we are hard done by casue they keep getting desicions for them against us
     
  8. pHatRon67

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    3 words.

    Not

    Good

    Enough.
     
  9. jiko

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    I admire your defiance to get justice , but the way I see it , it's not you or me who's going to change anything.. I've already stated in previous posts that if CELTIC feel there's a bias against them then they should take action.. Pull the club out of the remaining fixtures this season for all I care..
    It's really a case of people in a position of power to make the stand for the club and on behalf of the fans , and it's for THEM to put up or shut up... The fact they haven't done so tells me they actually don't feel the situation , the same way that fans do..
     
  10. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    I agree with this.
     
  11. jiko

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    My answer to that is what are you doing about it then , rather than moving on like myself and others have done ?

    Do people think that keeping threads going on forums is taking appropriate action ? Will you be singing songs at games about the corrupt SFA , Bringing banners to get the message across , boycotting International games so they don't get your money ?

    Im not quite sure what this alternative to moving on , entails..
     
  12. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    The alternative to 'moving on' is letting the establishment know we refuse to be trampled on. That attitude is defeatist and is the reason we might never get a completely fair crack of the whip.

    When Billy McNeill, our European cup winning captain, comes out and states we have ALWAYS been on the wrong side of the majority of the decisions in Scotland then you have to listen.
     
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    With all attention drawn to the blatant cheating can I just remind everyone of a couple of others. For example at CP when McManus was fouled by a Dundee Utd player who goes on to set up a goal. Final result Celtic 1 Dundee Utd 1.

    Or when McGinn was through on goal (around 80 minutes) at CP with the score Celtic 1 Hearts 1 and he gets tackled from behind IN THE BOX - no penalty, to say he was hacked is not enough - more like assaulted. Luckily Loovens scored in injury time to thwart the officials' 'Honest Mistake'.

    Im a season ticket holder at block 106, just past the half way line. Countless times have I seen the opposite team punt the ball up to a player in an offside position who then goes up for a header. I can see it, why cant the linesman? If that was Robbie Keane would the linesman not take satisfaction, delight even, at catching out an £8m £65k a week player?

    And another thing, any Celtic fan notice the linesman is staring directly at the sun when running the half facing the North Stand goals? That surely can't be a good thing.


    Keep the faith.
     
  14. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    Not agreeing with "moving on" does not mean anyone has to hang from rooftop's with banners etc, it simply means we agree more with the attitude of others who will continue to highlight the fact that we are not on a level playing field. The fact the club are now making moves would suggest to me that they are taking notice of the supporters "paranoia".
     
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    People of great standing in our minds like Billy Mcneill are not in a position to change things and its merely paying lip service which does nothing but make us all agreeable that something has to be done ... If Billy says it's always been going on then why is it still going on and why are the SFA still a closed shop of huns..

    The bottom line is that Im doing the exact same as all the people who are refusing to "move on".. The grand total of hee haw... It's just that my words typed on this thread are an admittance that I can't change anything.. It's only a defeatist attitude in myself , an acceptance that Im not in a position to change anything..
    That's why Im asking for the non defeatists to come forward and tell me their grand plan of what they are going to do.. Otherwise they are also defeatists , but are wrongly taking the moral high ground , and not only that , but they are also in denial about their defeatism... :icon_mrgreen:
     
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    I haven't been following the whole media outcry about the unfair decisons or statements coming out of Celtic but Im fairly sure that nobody has put their name to any comments that we are being treated unfairly or suggesting of bias.. That's not what I want to hear or read.. I want to see Celtic come out and say things like "Ian Brines should never referee in the SPL again because when it comes to consistency in decions from referee's , you can't have a ref who's taking action against one club by dishing out yellow cards on 3 occasions within the 90 minutes , while allowing players from the opposing club to go unpunished after making the exact same indescretions within the same 90 minutes , That ref is not applying the rules and is either incompetent or is a cheat"..

    That would be more to my way of not "moving on".. Unfortunately , me saying it won't make a difference..
     
  17. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You have got to be kidding me? :rolleyes:

    Your attitude to being dealt with unfairly is to accept it's the case and that is that? I'm a defeatist because I shout out loud that Celtic receive the lions share of the poor decisions but because I'm neither part of the SFA or a referee than I may as well just button my lip and sit in the corner?

    Very good.
     
  18. jiko

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    For me it's about taking action , and shouting out loud in a empty room isn't taking action.. You'd be as well moving on mate if that's your way of standing up against the big bad SFA..
     
  19. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    For you it's about being trampled on clearly.

    I'll continue to feel aggrieved and moan about it until we get out of this league and away from the backwards officiating.
     
  20. jiko

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    yer * it is... I've explained it already but I'll do it agian for you..

    1. I can't do anything about it so therefore am doing nothing about it..
    2. You aren't doing anything about it except moan which you think equates to doing something about it..
    3. Celtic are the ones who are our voice and are doing nothing about it..

    Rather than saying Im the one who's happy to be trampled on , why not take your moaning to Celtic and tell them you are not happy about their defeatist attitude.. That way you will at least be doing something about it and then you can at least be one step closer to taking the moral high ground over me..