This 'Always cheated, never defeated' nonsense.

Whittaker wrestling Ledley down in the box, Samaras gettin kicked about with no fouls being given....

 

While that may be, why is it always so hard to accept a defeat. I seen it last week with the Kilmarnock game, we were cheated. This week, we were cheated. The fact is the offside second goal was hard to see. Easily missed. So we can put that down as an honest mistake. We didn't play well. IMO we played better with 9 than with 11 because we got a fright and started to play football. When we had 11 on the pitch we sat back far too deep and didn't keep possesion or attack. I just wish we would stop coming across as thinking everyone is against us despite the fact we are soon to be league champions. The support stayed at the end and sung 'Glasgow Celtic champions' and 'Championeees' and the Rangers support were spewing. I don't mind mentioning the referees were *, or stating the fact it wasnt a red or whatever. But its this constant, every defeat, plastered over the papers to add fuel to the fire that we were cheated. Then you come on here and the support arent doing much justice by writing about it 5 days after a game rather than just saying * them.

 

I would agree, but unfortunately it's only been one day since we were last cheated out of a Glasgow Derby.

 

Stuart Dougal said the same on SSN, I was shocked to see they got him on SSN to discuss the referees performance. Stuart Dougal who resigned a week before he was due to referee his last game when it came out he was speaking at a dinner in the Larkhall Masonic Hall.... a place obviously hoachin with Celtic fans doesnt take a genius to work out whos side he was on either.

 

Suffering *, we're supposed to shrug our shoulders at that refereeing farce yesterday; I've never seen such a blatant attempt to stop a team winning at all costs

Murray is a coward, not least because he sends NL off without telling him what for and then refuses to meet him after the game as is NL's right.

I didn't blame Collum for losing us the cup, we weren't good enough on the day even if we should have had a penalty; other than that he had a decent game by his standards, but yesterday was totally different.

Huns allowed to foul with impunity, scandalous decision to send off cha, wanyama sent off (fairly) yet whittaker stays on the park stamping his studs into victor while on the ground, second goal offside and then perhaps worse of all the ref blows up before the stoppish time is finished just as it looks like 9 men might pull off the impossible.

It was blatant yesterday, we simply weren't going to be allowed to win that match at any cost. Who knows what would have happened if Cha had stayed on, we were starting to get a grip of the game at that time.

 

What I cant believe too is how people believe all Refs are fair and square and just doing their jobs. Who the * are these *? to becomea Ref they must like football, to like football they must support a team.

If I was a ref I would be a cheating *, the huns would get fuckall and we would get everything. So I dont understand how people can believe they are fair and square obviously some are, some will support teams like Hamilton and not give a * but there is, has and probably always will be a wee clique or however its spelled of hun linesmen and Refs.

 

The one with Goian just about ripping sammy's shirt from him to get nothing was the blatant. Instead he played advantage when it clearly would have benefited us to get the free-kick. Add to that the disgraceful red card decision in the first half, the rather suspect offside decisions, the free-kicks (or lack) of free-kicks awarded when sammy was getting kicked lumps out of, we could have quite easily had another pen, and if lenny is telling the truth, which I'm 110% sure he is then there is no way in * he should have been sent off.

We have every right to feel cheated imo

 

Notice the phrases like this used by the huns and recent discussion on several threads about "bottle". Ahh the power of the written media, fools many and has "duped" a number on here.

Some have mentioned by the "letter of the law" in reference to the refs display, well by his own letter Mr Murray had a nightmare. Missed a pull in the area by the same player who performed the same trick not 2 seconds earlier(for which he awarded a free-kick). Prior to this, Lee McCulloch with a blatant elbow which left Scott Brown with a wound to the back of his head. The Wanyama sending off by this "letter of the law" was correct but did Mr Murray or his near side linesman not see Steven Whittaker going over the ball(some papers have the image in print today). So by the letter of the law he gaffed yet again. A week previous by "the letter of the law", Nelson made contact with Stokes and therefore SHOULD HAVE BEEN a penalty.


The first 15 minutes we were poor before working ourselves into contention; only for a dubious and shocking decision left us down to 10 men (plus being a goal behind). So having to play a man down and trying to get ourselves back into the game again, was always going to cause us problems defensively. Wallace for me was offside for the second goal.

Call it a poor team display if you wish but Mr Murray first half decision had a massive effect on the game and suited the huns game plan.

 

The mistake imo was blaming gollum last week.
We have every right to moan about Murray yesterday but we start to look like bad losers when we do it after every defeat.

 

Tbh I think that even using this stupid saying on a Celtic forum is a bad idea because A: it gives the slogan publicity and B: it now appears the slogan is a success as we have picked up on it/are bothered by it.

Ignore it. They're Huns, don't give them the attention they so desperately crave and never ever EVER ignore it or doubt it when we are cheated in fear of them using this crap propaganda slogan as a way of stopping you question things or pointing out a blatant wrongdoing because that is exactly what this type of sloganeering is engineered to do, silence us, and cause argument in our ranks.

 

It was a tainted victory for the huns.

 

One of my friends at the pub is quite neutral he said the refereeing in this game was completly awfull. and he basicly said like everyone else Cha's red card was not a red. their second goal was offside and victors red hard was a bit harsh. Even the bocanegra red card was harsh he said it felt as if the referee wanted to make the "statistics look better"

In the end the huns might have won but still it feels like we were cheated because it was not one decision that was against us it was loads. I think lennys post match talk summed it up.

 

our performance was *, but the referees' was worse. i don't know if it was a 'fix' or whatnot, but there was always a sense that we couldn't possibly go to ibrox and win the league, we couldn't possibly go and beat rangers in their 4th home defeat in a row ever... it just seemed too good to be true.

maybe we bottled it, maybe the ref bottled it, maybe the huns wanted it more, but all i know is that we will have the last laugh, because the league is coming home, and thats all i care about. we have the chance to show ourselves at Paradise against them and that will be the players' chance to pay us 'the fans' back

 

There's nothing that can be said to the very few Tims that are content with the status quo as far as the refs are concerned. To put it lightly they're away with the fairies.

P.s. The "always cheated, never defeated" patter

 

Some people are unreal. Yes the team were *, but that doesn't mean that we should excuse the horrible display from the officials.

2 complete neutrals on my facebook, one an arsenal fan and the other a Liverpool fan who have no interest in Celtic or rangers both commented they felt that the ref was actually 'cheating' Celtic.

* what they say, it suits them, they more often than not are the beneficiaries, that's why.

 

When we were dropping points earlier in the season at rugby park and home to st Johnstone and hibs there were absolutely no moaning about refs.it was all down to our * defending etc.

It's funny how 2 big games at the business end of the season,the refs have played their part in our downfall.yes we should have buried a Couple of they chances in the final but we were denied a stonewall penalty.yes we started poorly against the huns but the cha incident was never a sending off.the 2 late goals as well as stokes and sammys chances showed that although we started poor we could still have got goals.again cha red card more or less put an end to that

 

No i do not agree . The eyes do not decieve poor descions in most of games we lose to them. I just cant see why no rangers players were booked right up untill past 80 minutes . Whittaker 3 fouls didnt get booked was sent off in the last old murray refereed . Ref was shocking . Picture on paper shows wanyama tackle whittaker also uses studs in 50 50 challege .

 

And * brines pic in the paper pointing his finger into lennys chest most likley talking down to him like he is a * child wat is it with refs who abuse their power fukin sik of it act like they are fukin head masters.

 

there isnt another league in the world or against any other team that cha' s challenge would be seen as a red card, people can try to deny the cheating by refs and linesmen all they want but it is so blatant.
we lost the league last year by a point and my mind rushes back to the hamilton match when their striker was standing about 3 meters offside and the goal stood earning them a draw ,* like this never happens against any other team

 

Oh please, the huns scored a goal against us in December at home and it was wrongfully disallowed. If that goal was awarded, the game could have been different and they could have trashed us again.

The ref was not very good on Sunday, but I do not believe there is some kind of conspiracy.