i am no carol vorderman or anything so i could be wrong with the numbers here but
with all the talk about cutting wage bills etc ,how much have Celtic saved..have they saved that much to compensate a CL place..i doubt it
i was under the impression that football clubs buy and sell players ,like a car salesman if you like
or are Celtic in the Arther Daley car salesmen bracket,"would you buy a used car from this guy"
surely the windfall in CL money is inspiration to speculate to accumulate and try to get to the last 8 in the CL we have been that close twice now we are a million miles from there,
it gives me a sick feeling as i speak..to lose the title this week will be catastrophic in terms of seeing the champions leauge for a while
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Spot on mate
I've never really understood why the board in there efforts to save money and make a profit dont spend a little to make a lot.
ie January signings, to ensure the league is won.
(You can moan about how this wouldn't ensure we win anything but if the football club is infact as much of a business as we are told it is, then as a business the morons in charge should be making calculated informed decisions regarding the issue of "speculate to accumulate".) -
I feel the board have taking it for granted davie that celtic would win the league with the current team ,,big mistake.
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I would have though for the buying and selling system to work we would have to sell some of our first team players when we get offers.
Then you bring one of the youngsters into the main team and so on.
We seem to be buying them often enough at the young end but not selling any of our top players.
I dont want celtic to sell our best players but there must be a balance at some point for it all to work.
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The whole situation is a joke. I have not posted much recently, not that I am big contributer anyway, but, I just felt there were too many 'keep the faith' type posters.
All you were getting from them was 3 in a row, last 16 blah blah and to a certain degree they had a point. They were stating facts, and whilst I tried to quantify my arguments about a poor team, bad management and no signings I did not really have concrete figures.
Sadly now we do..... look at the lead we had, that was the chance for the team to regroup and strengthen, did we do that? No, yet again the biscuit was kept shut whilst 'Chesney' refuses to stand up and say we need fresh players.
Honestly it is an absolute joke. The board and those wealthy enough to have shares and who are actually concerned with the balance sheet won't really care about losing the league. However, your average fan who scrimps and saves to invest in Celtic in a different way wants their returns not on a balance sheet, but on the pitch and in the trophy cabinet.
The time has come for ALL fans to accept that until money is spent on the problem areas then we will not move forward.
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He is doing a tough job with * all money,ok nothing at celtic is the way we would like these days but atleast we have had some success.
I take it you often stand up to your boss and demand demand demand and get all you ask for....?
We both know life aint that easy.
In time we will get a new manager and he too will get * all funds lets just hope we wtill win some things then. -
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But you see nobody really knows what the problem is do they? Is he actually telling the board not to waste their money or are they saying no to giving money.
Let's be honest he is obviously spineless......
And no I don't always demand demand demand, when I did work I politely stated my case and opinion and if they did not give the result I wanted I walked. I was no doormat for nobody, unlike WGS.
The problem with this success is that CL aside it is against pretty poor teams and nobody can deny that this is the poorest Rangers team ever seen? Look at the turmoil they are in and yet they close a gap and look set to take the title. It is not acceptable. -
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I hear what you are saying mate but i believe we tried to sign players in January and we couldn't get the ones that would strengthen the team.
Now, Strachan has been slaughtered in the past, for buying sub-standard players, so now he is being a bit more careful with the spending and you can't blame him for that.
I suppose the bottom line is... you can't make a player come to CP, just because we want him. -
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This is true mate BUT as i have already posted, we cannot just spend money for the sake of it.Take the huns for example, they are in serious financial difficulty, partly due to managers buying lots and lots of mediocre players.
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The thing is the majority of fans who are asking for players to signed are not asking for expensive flair purchases. They are stating that certain positions need addressing and asking why are we not spending money to fix them?
There is a difference between spending money for the sake of it and actually targeting positions and players to fill them. -
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Just because we need to strenghten positions, does not mean that we CAN find players to do it.
You don't spend money unless you are bettering what you have. -
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its been like this for years! and it will keep continueing and frankly this * me off.
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The reason we're in this position is because we failed to buy a top striker in January. We may have tried to buy in January but if you look at the way Celtic go about trying to buy players, a 31 day window is not nearly enough time to get someone significant through the door.
Look at the James McCarthy situation for example, who is of relatively low value compared to the type of player we need to add to the strikeforce - Portsmouth have a £500k STRAIGHT CASH offer turned down flat. Good starting point I think. We go about trying to sign him by offering £200k initially, then another £200k after appearances and £100k of add ons. Hamilton are not interested in that in the slightest! The long drawn out process continues from here and normally lasts around 3 / 4 months. Why can we not just make a straightforward offer for this guy?
If this is the way we go about trying to sign a £1m player from a club just 2 mins down the road then what chance do we have in getting a proven striker from Europe on board at short notice? -
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We are in this poition due to miserly under-investment. Strachan's brought the wages down. But the standard of football came crashing down alongside. We are now reduced to scavenging emerging tallent from the SPL (Flood, McCarthy) Which is okay if your ambition extends to being a good SPL team & no further. But that also has the knock-on effect of lowering the standard of Scottish football as well.