The uncomfortable truth about many Celtic fans

good m8, good,now i understand how sometimes you lose the plot with me,and others

so in stead of arguing with you now i can understand mabye the reasons why you post like you do

so its all good

ps im off now so if i dont reply to a reply ,im not here im off

 

yeah but you can see there is a difference in leeway between WGS and others. WGS gets none. One defeat after 12 wins and there are threads asking him to go. I hate to use the old comparison but we had considerably worse domestic and CL record under MON and some really lumpy football but he was always given huge amounts of leeway. That to me has been there from the start and any mistakes or bits of bad PR are magnified and siezed on. The thing is MON never impressed me personality wise. I thought he was a bit too slick, perhaps oily, smug and evasive. He talked in sterotype Ron manager language. Stange thing is WGS is more like a slightly manic punter and I like that about him. Much more a genuine bloke. You can tell which one is the working class guy from a sink estate in east Edinburgh and which one was a law student. For me WGS is likeable because in his own weird way he is a man of the people.

 

Good post A lot of people talking sense today My three eldest sisters and my mother are all catholic.......following a family row between my gran and my father the rest of my family weren't baptised and we were sent to a protestant school. My father incidentaly came from a mixed background himself as there were Irish catholics who married into his predominantly protestant family over many generations. We were raised to respect all for their beliefs and how could we not given that we were catholics and protestants in the same family. My parents had 6 girls and 1 boy and of those 6 girls 5 of us married catholics. I never really became aware of sectarianism until I went to the secondary school.

 

OUTSTANDING. Thank * it's not just me that is seeing all these things when I watch Celtic play these days. I could not agree with you more! Well said ma man. HAIL HAIL

 

Mine was actually the fourth 'cross the divides' marriage in my family. compulsary intermarriage is the only way. Then nobody will be able to say im this and your that cause we will all be happy mongrels which are more healthy and intelligent and loveable anyway (at least the dogs are)

 

You see, if more anti-Strachan guys put forward that argument, I would respect their opinions. That's a valid reason, and although I don't agree with it, I can see where you come from.

But I don't think your representing anywhere near the majority of Strachan-haters with that statement, I think for many it is simply a 'he's not one of us' issue, and no matter how he behaved in media conferences, I don't think they'd change their opinion which they may have had since before he arrived here.

 

I think this is a fantastic description of how many Celtic fans couldn't take to WGS right from the off.

Well put

 

I would love someone to tell me the answer why celtic fans of today dislike strachan ,i was going to games 25-28 years as a regular with the mates on the swally asyou did ,and at that time aberdeen and to some extent dundee utd dominated scottish football.

Aberdeen had a great team under alex ferguson and my view is if you played under him your goig to be pig headed as strachan and a few others were ,miller,mcleish ,mcghee,black and so on ,so is it a wonder that strachan is set in his ways ,i hated him as a player cos he was a magic wee player and it was like a gtuy from the aberdeen manager and players to the old firm cos they broke the winning habit of celtic and rangers .

Now i dont see that as the answer to the hatred showing towards strachan cos im 44 and the points getting made on here are by guys a lot younger than me and are young enough not to be boring then ,so again why?.

He grew up a hibs fan and i heard his father was a celtic fan ,so no probs there ,is there ? he played for aberdeen and was disliked by celtic fans cos he was an arrogant good player ,is that the answer ? he went on to play for man utd ,any probs with that ? he manage numerous teams in england with no connection to celtic what so ever ,any probs in that ? and then joins celtic .

The day he joined i was hearing ,strachan wee bassa gtf and so on ,from day one he was never giving a chance ,3 years later ,3 in a row later ,whats happening ,the same ,after 12 games on the trot ,gtf ,i dont recall strachan playing in goals that day and missing a shot from 45 yards ,so it had nothing to do with boruc ,a lot of the hostility comes from fans who say he cant pick a team ,he picked boruc a * in peoples eyes ,did anyone start a thread saying DROP THE HOLY GOALIE ,nope .

Anyone at the game that day shout ,boruc gtf ? or was after the whistle ,strachan your pish ? why is it his fault .now the bhoy wonder mcgeady takes a huff after HE did wrong ,theres people shouting to get strachan tae * again ,why ?

Gordon strachan why is he not accepted by celtic ,is it football reasons or personality ,he has a better record than MON ,and dont say rangers are pish etc you still have to beat whats in front of you ,he is not flukey ,opposite 3 in a row hits that in the head ,is he a bigot and no one is saying ,someone tell me a good reason ?.

Why is boruc treated so differently when he makes the clangers he is making he still gets cheered ,if he got dropped by strachan what would get said ? personally he deserves to get dropped or cant i say that about the holy goalie ,im remembering when scott brown last seaso had a few howlers ,it was cos he wanted to play with rangers and pish like that ,but he is doing well now and everything is rosy again ,but strachan sorts a top player out ,doing his job by the way and he is a bassa ,thats the rangers game fecked ,* strachan , what the * is strachan doing ,gtf ,all posts in here the last 2 days ,why ?

Greendave opened this up asking questions ,and sorry mate i dont know the answer either ,but ive asked about 10 questions to why he is disliked ,anyone answer this ,cos i must be blind ,to get rid of a man who is doing a job for our team and then probaly wanting roy keane the 80million flop as the next man ,am i daft ? hail hail

 

If Diego Maradona missed 5 sitters in 5 consecutive matches against River Plate, would the Boca fans think any less of him? would they still think of him as the best footballer of all time? Would he still be their favourite player ever? Would he still be an absolute legend at the club?

Same goes for Ryan Giggs at United. Boruc is that kinda player for us, we all know he's made mistakes, and disgraceful mistakes at that. But we appreciate the fantastic saves he's also made, what do you want us to do, boo him? we give him a standing ovation to let him know we're behind him and to try and get his confidence back. It's * all to do with him blessing himself at Ibrox. that may be why so many love him, but it isn't the reason he got a standing ovation ffs.

I didn't know Boruc made a song and dance about being Catholic, I actually thought the Scottish media did that.

" He's not one of us " is utter pish. Was Jock Stein one of us ffs? was Kenny Dalglish? are they both absolute * legends at CP? Was Henrik Larsson one of us? Was Chris Sutton? Lubo? Absolutely * pathetic.

 

Thats great ,but why has the same support never acknowledge stachan by even writing a simple song ,or chant his name out ,MON got it every week ?

 

I can't speak for the support, mate. But I'd imagine its because he's a cheeky * in interviews.

A lot of the time, we want to know why we lost a match we should have won. We don't want to here a joke somecunt texted him before the match.

His signings for the most part have flopped and been a waste of money.

I don't mind him for the most part, he gets on my * at times, for the above reasons.

Also tactically at times, he doesn't have a clue. DUTD away proves that.

 

This thread isnt about Boruc so when you answer the question, dont focus on one little part please.

Boruc is just a comparison, MON is just a comparison to the double standards that GS receives from sections of the support and only 2-3 people in a thread 12 pages long have tried to explain. The rest have either read the thread badly or just tried to focuson small parts of the problem but explained nothing about the problem

 

I'd like to see a quote from Strachan disrespecting the fans. I've only ever heard him say great things about us.

 

People who hate GS should give themselves a shake.
Especially after this McGeady thing everyone still sees him as a golden boy, he needs a kick in the * for what he did.

 

I just think no matter what he does there will always be a section of the support who will never like him.
I think he has a unique personality, a great sense of humour and doesn't suffer fools easily.
Okay, he gets it wrong sometimes, but so does every manager.
I'd like people to cut him some slack, but pigs might fly.

 

I'm not saying don't give him the standing ovation. I think it's great to show guys who are struggling for form a bit of support.

I'm asking about the double standards applied here.

You can believe what you want, but it is my strong belief that a vocal minority of Celtic fans have never accepted Strachan from day one, will never accept him no matter what he achieves here and seize upon every slip he or his teams make because they are narrow minded bigots.

That is what I call absolutely * pathetic.

 

Like I say. Why did Jock Stein, Kenny Dalglish, Henrik Larsson, Chris Sutton, Lubo, Nakamura, Petrov etc... why did none of them have the problems WGS is having? As far as I'm aware, none of them are Catholic, and certainly none of them were/are " celtic minded ".

I agree about the double standards, I just refuse to believe WGS is disliked because of his religion. Why did the others not recieve the same abuse WGS does? If anything, it's his Aberdeen days that cause the dislike.

 

long balls up the park. hmmm , must have been watching mon videos

 

Great post from Kennydal although it took me about 45 mins to read :bbpd:

I started another thread documenting his signings and for the most part he's been proved to have a similar signing quality to Martin O'Neill. I didn't notice you posting in there though.

At times Strachan has been tactically superb and got it 100% right. A lot of the time it's individuals letting him down (Boruc, Samaras) so some slack has to be given....

 

I back boruc because hes a great keeper(our best since packie bonner)and hes done more good for us than bad,,I think allied by this fact is the fact he hates the huns is why he is so well supported by the fans.

Now i see a lot of posts saying why isnt boruc dropped for his poor form,well its the manager you defend so proudly who affords the same backing to artur boruc.

So instead of aiming these questions at fellow fans,they should be asked of our manager most of you think can do no wrong.