The Ronny Deila Thread

Aye young guys in Scotland would rather be seen with a * hanging out their gubs and a bottle of tonic. This is just a generation thing. Most people have a heavy drinker related to them, which is a scary thought.

For instance, my family, 2 uncles deed with drink. Mum and remaining uncle alcohalic, granda died last year with liver failure. This isnt a unusual thing in my part of Scotland either.

Sorry for the rundown of my disfunctional family, was the 1st example that came to mind(naturally :smiley-laughing002

 

It must be a shock for a foreign coach like Deila to see or hear of youth players out with a bag of chips or down McDonalds with their mates, sipping Hooch at the weekends etc

Even the senior players still seem to have to have their moments - night out getting wrecked and home with a kebab or some * afterwards.

When youth players laugh about Scott Brown on the pavement melted with a kebab... it is funny in a way but it's not setting the example it should to youth players across the country.

 

No need to apologise mate if we are honest, as you say, the majority of all our families will be similar to yours, I know mine was/is.

 

Drinking is a problem, but Scottish football itself has the added factor of weather influencing the playstyle. Of course a country should strive to have its youth pursue healthy habits. But tiki-taka is not compatible with Scottish weather and pitches. This means Scotland will produce players more suited to a direct playing style.

 

Indoor pitches is the answer then. This is what they are trying to implement over Scotland for youngsters.

Get them in, away from the * weather, on a good pitch and train them in ball control, technique, and fitness. Not winning no matter what and two footed tackling, screaming from the sidelines like lunatics.

You can see young coaches in Scotland want to make a change, its the old coaches and managers that are stuck in the past.

 

Its a sad state of affairs, and its not going away any time soon.

For every 1 boy that makes professional, theres another 10 getting pished and taking drugs.

 

That won't help when they have to go out oand play games on some of the real pitches- like the one in Stranraer. To solve this- one would need a massive investment across all of Scotland, to build stadia shielded from bad weather for every team. Some clubs might even protest being donated one, because the best defense against tiki-taka is the type of football they play, just a bit more tactically refined, plus bad weather and surface. I mean, Chelsea screwed over Barcelona by having Stamford Bridge be dry and unkempt, to hamper Barcelona's style.

 

You can only play whats in front of you though. Also, thats a one off game, most pitches are semi-decent in the SPFL at least.

If these kids are getting the correct training from a young age then they'll be good enough no matter the pitch they play on in competitive football.

Chelsea beating Barca is a totally irrelevant argument because regardless of the pitch being dry and unkempt they have a team full of world class footballers, who have undoubtedly had world class training. In Scotland, theres none.

 

Semi-decent pitches still suffer in a downpour and windy conditions. Or worse, a freeze. Striving for tiki-taka is wrong, when the weather demands a far more pragmatic approach. Keeping youngsters away from alcohol and junk food is a must even outside of sports, though. That's something your Health Ministry must start working on. As for training of children, it should be tailored to various factors. Not everyone can be a towering lump, but also it's wrong to cast away a youth just if he hasn't shown promise in the technical area of the game. Endeavor and courage do matter as much as technical ability, I think. In any case, for every youth training camp, a few psychologists must be present. Setting the heads straight will do wonders.

 

Nobodys asking for tiki-taka though. Or any style of football for that matter. We just want our youngsters given a proper footballing education and to be taught the basics 1st and foremost.

Ive not played football for years, but any manager I had in the past couldnt pick their nose never mind a team of footballers. Being told to run round a pitch for an hour then playing 11-a-sides does nothing for young boys. Half the * can run for days but couldnt trap a bag of cement.

Its the training methods along with our bevvy culture that * us. Playing surfaces shouldnt matter when theres guys coming from ghettos in South America, growing up playing barefooted on the street, doing things with a ball you didnt think were possible:smiley-laughing002:

 

It does- the street is usually flat, and their ghettos are not frozen, ever. In Scotland, kids play on lumpy, muddy fields, I believe?

 

I think x boxes and playstations are a bigger threat than burgers and booze. If, as in my day, just about every kid was kicking a football about nearly everyday, then we could produce 20 Tony Watts.

If fifteen went down the burger and booze route, we'd still have 5 very good players.

Also coaching is an issue. I think kids should be allowed to just play and enjoy playing for a few years. Let their skills develop, then teach them technique.

 

With the school set ups they are doing he right thing and are able to keep a better eye on the boys. Hopefully this will see less of the top prospects go wayward. But at the end of the day you either want it or you don't.

Despite the size here of the game here we can't produce players better than "above average/pretty good" (bar perhaps McGeady, McCarthy, D.Fletcher) despite less developed nations having at least 1 top class player.

Scots are just genetically inferior or societally conditioned to failure/defeatism/self-deprecation/ lack of cooperation and to hold an inferiority complex. That's why everything is risk adverse and sways to cowardly self-preservation. The fact I'm saying this perhaps proves this point.

 

How can they play when they dont know the basics?

This is the attitude that is the difference between us and other countries. By all means, let them play but at least teach them how to use the ball properly.

 

X-Box's and Playstation contend with sport for a kids attention in just about every developed nation. I don't think they are a bigger issue here than they are in the rest of Europe or the USA. Booze definitely is though, and until we stamp out the attitude that a casual *-up is fine now and again for professional athletes, we;ll never produce a top level team in the modern era. It's bizarre, because it isn't something you see right across the board in Scottish sport. There are plenty of amatuer athletes up and down the country who simply wouldn't drink at all during the season.

 

Just wanted to echo most other sentiments that the problem is a booze (and to lesser extent, computer game) culture. The youth of Spain and France aren't interested in boozing, at least nowhere to the extent that we are.

I don't think it's even a footballer thing - it's a proper universal culture thing. Whatever your vocation, drink begins at 16-18, and the lads night out can survive all the way through your life.

Fair play, everyone's free to make their own choices, but if we're serious about changing culture in order to improve youth football, then the work is a society thing, and not necessarily a football education.

Of course it would help isolating youngsters from bad influences and educating them on how important diet/etc is, but the "London" nightclub lifestyle is impossible to resist.

 

Goodness,you awright want a wee drink ?

 

The basics are pass the ball or get past an opponent then eventualy stick the ball in the net.

Just let them get on with for a while.

 

But it isn't the developed nations that are producing the most skillfull players. It's the under developed countries in South America and Africa.

 

He finally gave Janko a mention in his press conference. :icon_mrgreen:

Progress!