The Ronny Deila Thread

His persistence with 433 is annoying more than anything no pace on the wings no target man yet we still go with a 433

 

Definitely.

Both are inheriting a squad with mostly sub standard players and are already under huge pressure because they haven't yet had enough time to get rid of the deadwood and bring in their own players.

 

100%

If given the chance to get rid of some of the * we have and a bit of money to bring in some of the players to play to his philosophies, I think Ronny could be extremely successful.

Lennon left as he knew the team wouldn't go any further, and as everyone has seen, is even going backwards.

The team needs a severe clear out, too many players are at the club now who aren't good enough to wear the shirt, too many players were bought in on the cheap on the hope they could step it up and most have failed.

We would of been even further embarrassed last night if it wasn't for Gordon, even he was a cheap option, where would we be right now if he had came in and got injured straight away, which was a huge risk.

The fans, and Ronny are owed some signings from the board, we aren't good enough, and for those saying we are good enough to beat the likes of Legia with better tactics, I really don't see it.

Both Legia and Maribor out played us on both legs due to the lack of quality we have, and these are both teams that a couple of years ago everyone would of been easily confident of beating both.

 

Lennon was a clever manager though, he changed his formation and tactics constantly to suit the players we had available or to what we were playing against. There were times under Lennon we went 4 games playing a different formation in each game etc

Deila up till now has shown me he has little tactical knowledge, not just the formation he's playing but at games i've seen no evidence of how players are supposed to be playing.

For example when you think of Lennon's spell at Celtic no set style or tactic sticks out. Strachan always played 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 in Europe, O'Neill always played 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. Lennon changed constantly he started as 4-2-3-1, then went 4-4-2(flat), then 4-3-2-1, then 3-5-2, then 4-2-3-1 then by the end were playing a 4-1-2-1-2(4-4-2 diamond). He had numerous styles of player playing in those teams, most he got playing well in the roles he played them in - Mulgrew - left mid, Brown right-, Commons right/left/centre, Samaras left wing, Forrest in the middle, Wanyama centre-back/right-back, Lustig-centre-back. All his formations and styles were well planned and thought out and players played to their specific roles well in games even one like Miku masquerading as almost a centre-mid in the Barca game.

 

Okay, name me a team who plays 4-3-3 and tell me their wingers.

 

PSG- Cavani and Lavezzi (yes they do chip in with goals but they are mainly their to feed Ibra

 

Barca last year, Neymar, Sanchez or Pedro.

 

To be fair id call them wide forwards, they aren't wingers. They are essentially Stokes/Griffiths style players except Lavezzi who is more like Samaras, not as much a goalscorer/forward and more in between that and a winger. For me the rest are forwards playing wide.

 

They're more of a 4231

 

Pedro and Sanchez are both wingers. The modern winger is different to the traditional winger, but their still wingers.

 

Id say they play more 4-2-3-1, Robben and Ribery play too deep to be classed as forwards.

They now they play Gotze and Muller a lot in the wider position, in like a lopsided 4-2-3-1, where 1 side plays more like a winger and the other more like an attacking midfielder or forward.

 

I dont think they are, id say they are just worse versions of Neymar who is in turn a worse version of Suarez or Messi.

Id class a winger as someone who could be comforable playing wide in a 4-4-2.

Nobody would play Sanchez and Pedro in a 4-4-2 I dont think.

Di Maria, Ribery, Robben, McGeady, Forrest, Nani id say are natural wingers. I wouldnt even say Lavezzi is one although he is more like one than Pedro or Sanchez.

 

Exactly, didn't think anyone would come up with the hair-brained notion of a PSG and Barca, ffs.

They are forwards, sorry to report to you all.

As I said if you want wingers, 4-3-3 is a no-go.

No-one plays with wingers, the likes of Messi, Pedro, Neymar (ffs, you seen his goals record, lol), Cavani (winger, lol), Lavezzi, Benzema, Ronaldo. They are not wingers, they are forwards. Forwards with ability I'll say that, but if you play 3 up front they better have decent goalscoring records, the guys Delia has brought in have anything but.

Let him give us a 4-4-2, or a 4-5-1 or whatever, yep, but no way a 4-3-3.

 

You missed the parts with the goalscoring bit. ffs, gie's strength.

 

I didn't even quote you

 

You are right IMO That 4-3-3 system is absolutely * *, especially in Europe where good teams and better player pick us off. The 4-3-1-2 was the obvious way to go last night, but the bold Ronny decides to bring that walloper Ambrose back, and drop Commons and Deneyer.

Too many people on this forum making excuses for Deila and Collins..Deila and Collins had a good hand, they had an away goal and were playing at home before a full house, yet they still found a way to * up.The turning point for me was Deila taking Kayal off and keeping that * Johansen on.

 

Who in their right mind takes Kayal off, instead of certain other players? 1-1 we earned in Maribor should've been safeguarded with comfort. Instead, we bottle it. Deila is no tactician. But all is well, since he won't bother Lawwell about transfer money, so Pete can pile money on, whenever we sell players.

 

I quoted you as you described pedro and sanchez as winger. I do get were your going.

But as I said go and look up these guys scoring records and they are not wingers.

 

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