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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

Discuss The Ronny Deila Thread in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. og1

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    I think it is nice that you believe that I am cynical though and usually on the ball and that sounds like you have swallowed a mouthful of lamb there mo chara
     
  2. Dáibhí

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    And this is what people are moaning about, no? The quality of manager we have?

    Unless you're talking about bringing in a novice, of course? Which can either backfire in spectacular fashion (John Barnes) or work out nicely (Neil Lennon).

    Call me a cynic, but I'm doubtful that the man to pull us to European dominance will be available in February.
     
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    His record with Norwich is more impressive than winning the Norwegian league. I dont think we could get any worse in Europe either so...
     
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    Folk want the best for Celtic and people need to accept that some others here don't think Deila is the man to achieve that. It isn't an insane notion, in fact I find the 'nothing to see here' idea held by some far stranger.

    May no mistake, he has to shape up very quickly. I'm 100% any 'big idea' for the club because there are so many area in which we could improve - I bet you would find very few who don't back that suggestion. I have yet to see much evidence at all beyond a few soundbites and a video on Youtube that Ronny is the man to implement that improvement throughout the club.
     
  5. paulie walnuts Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apart from griffiths I can't think of any player who has improved under Ronny.
    The idea that the players are fitter due to his diet restrictions etc is also a myth imo.
    Start to the season has been * and things need to improve soon for Ronny.
     
  6. Dáibhí

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    At this stage I have faith in the board of directors to not pull the plug on Deila at the moment, as it would be nothing more than a knee * reaction.

    If he wins the league, a cup and takes us to the knock out stages of Europe against a decent side then all will be forgiven (and a lot of the posters who're all over the forum at the moment will no doubt have scurried away as well).
     
  7. Liam Scales

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    How many managers 'worth their salt' are withing our reach? Right now you have managers like Jurgen Klopp available. Someone we aren't going to get but he's certainly worth his salt.

    Paul Lambert? Gordon Strachan's contract is just about up at Scotland as well, Murat Yakin is also available and is a very good manager...

    There's always guys available during the season. Infact I think we'd have a better chance of getting a better manager when there's not a load of jobs on offer.

    The thing is, if we want to change a manager in summer, the probability is we don't get into the CL which is the most important thing for us. If the board know they want a manager gone in February, why wait until the summer to assess that? Bring in the man in February.

    Again, I'm not saying we should get rid of Ronny, all I'm saying is we shouldn't be changing that drastically in the summer. We need the CL.
     
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    You were suggesting that no managers of reasonable ability would be available outwith summer. The reality is RD would have jumped at the chance to manage Celtic whenever he was offered. This suggests that the idea that we couldn't attract anyone worthwhile outside summer is simply wrong. Out current manager, who was deemed worthwhile, would have come to Celtic outside of the summer window. Plenty of others would too I bet.
     
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  10. Dáibhí

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    I guess time will tell.

    Personally, i'd view the return of Strachan as a step backwards, completely nullifying the entire policy the club has been implementing the last few years, and I don't like the look of Lambert either.

    I think Deila knows what he's doing, but it'll take time to get it right. I also feel that certain players have to be moved on before that happens.
     
  11. Liam Scales

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    The entire policy? What, no Champions League and to decimate our team every so often?

    Bring me that step backwards to a manageable budget, achieving the latter stages of Europes premier competition please :smiley-laughing002:
     
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    If you are referring to Commons you are off your head. He is head and shoulders above most SPL players. Listen to the sheep on here last night, all the other clubs are feared of him. Replacing him with a workman is one of our major problems, I do concede though that he should be benched in some euro games but in the SPFL against blanket defenses come on like
     
  13. Dáibhí

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    No, the policy of moving towards being a club that is self-sufficient, brings through young players that we can sell on for profit and that is sustainable moving forward.

    You know the old saying, you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. It'll take time, but it'll be worth it if it works out.

    If what i've heard is true, then I am referring to Commons. If a player, any player, is being a disruptive influence in the dressing room then he has to go, simple as that.

    I'm not saying for sure that Commons is being problematic, but if he is then Ronny should get shot of him.
     
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    I don't think Deila's proven he is capable of doing that yet either. His quality of signings aren't really up there for me to think that just now.

    Can't see Armstrong, GMS or Ciftci going for Van Dijk/Wanyama/Fraser Forster money.
     
  15. Liam Scales

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    From what I've heard the biggest problems Johansen? What have people heard about Commons?
     
  16. Dáibhí

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    Do you think he's actually identifying the players? He'll be identifying the type of player required, their strengths and so on, then it'll be down to the scouting department under John Park, and Lawwell to bring the players in.

    That's how we've worked for a while, isn't it?
     
  17. Liam Scales

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    He gets final word on who we bring in. That's the way we work, like I've said before it looks like he's going for the players that he's personally seen. Doesn't look like he fully trusts the scouting team yet.

    It's not a big mystery how we work.
     
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    If he does not trust the men who brought in Victor etc and is going by his own judgment then we may cut him loose now. Rememebr this is a man who had McGregor last season and Rogic this season ahead of Kris Commons. Now that you mention it as well our luck with recruitment has stalled. Coincidence or Deilas fault?
     
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    I don't fully blame him actually, he did trust our scouts last season and got left with Tonev, Wakaso, Scepovic etc.
     
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    I agree actually