The Ronny Deila Thread

If it was lack of preparation, then I would want Deila gone this morning. I don't believe for one second he didn't prepare the players for the game though. Do you not think he will have known the importance of the tie?

 

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Same level as Malmo because they have managed to string a few wins together against painters and plumbers. Right you are.

 

Firstly I'm not arguing that he didn't prepare them, In not quite that daft, mate:smiley-laughing002:; I'm arguing that his preparation was ineffective.

Secondly as I keep saying, bottling it is not the same as lack of motivation and that does come down to preparation when all but two of your starting 11 bottle it.

Thirdly, I don't talk about "Big bad Deila" because I want him to stay. There is so much he is doing right that there is no doubt in my mind he's the man to take us forward. Nevertheless, ineffective preparation for European ties is becoming a bit of a theme here and he needs to either develop these skills very quickly or should be given a mentor to guide him for a season, whether he likes it or not. Personally I'd like to see WGS do that

 

Sevco on the same level as Malmo?

No. Not even close.

 

Am at my wits end with him we cant play his formation he does not change it even when were chasing 2 goals with half an hour to go in the most important game for 2 year.

tactically clueless mulgrew was out of his depth the first 20 mins anycunt could tell, izzy on mulgrew centre mid to beef up the midfield that done * all except hide all night!!

In our attacking play there is * all movement because we only have 1 man up front! Johansen should give his weeks wage to charity this week he never left the changing room


looked like a bunch of guys playing together for the first time last night

no attacking flare ronnie?? Took him 20 odd mins to make a sub and he takes off our most effective player, forrest was the only 1 bar the keeper who turned up last night.

Am still * fuming and the buck stops with the manager

 

Same level as Malmo :smiley-laughing002::smiley-laughing002:

 

Mate, only an idiot would think Deila didn't prepare his players. What I am saying is that his preparations were, in certain important aspects, insufficient and/or ineffective due to a lack of experience on his part. * one of the Norwegian lads on here gave some good examples of this today talking about Hareide's press conferences versus Ronny's.

 

The mentor situation that you're suggesting will never, ever happen. It's a non-starter because the board won't pay the extra wages to an ex manager when we have one in place, Deila would feel totally undermimed (I'm aware you say whether he likes it or not) and I feel that Deila would be tempted to resign if such an absurd idea was ever put into place.

 

You must be trolling because you can't honestly believe that.

 

Ok, what aspects do you think he didn't prepare the players for? Let's be honest, nobody except Deila and the players know this for certain.

 

Agree with all of this..

They had throw in near their own corner flag in the second half with in two passes they were inside our getting a shot on goal, fucksake we were so amateurish last night.

However It would be counterproductive to dismiss Ronny, but there are some real concerns about his tactics or lack of them..

 

The way we played last night you would have thought we were 2-0 up and naw needing 2 goals, knocking the ball about the back 4 with no urgency or care really * anoyed me, the manager was stroling about the touchline as if he was viewing a training excercise with his arms crossed.

were at bad just now we made qarabag look like barcelona

 

Deila will take responsibility for it but I don't see last nights defeat as being his fault because once the players are on the park the responsibility falls mainly with the players to perform. Apart from Izaguirre and Lustig, this was the same team that won 3-2 and dominated the home match. The players on the park yesterday were more than good enough to have played better than what they did. Deila can only do so much on the sidelines and at halftime. Even Brown didn't perform to his usual standards.

All the players knew what was at stake for this match...Deila would have drummed that into them (if they, for some strange reason, didn't know themselves already), so for me the blame for last nights result lies a lot more at the doorstep of the the players than it does with Deila.

For so many players to not perform as they should have can be seen as a domino effect...one goes then the majority of the rest will inevitably follow, especially if the captain didn't perform. Brown wasn't anywhere near his usual standards and that could have caused a ripple effect to go through the team. I'm not solely blaming Brown as plenty of other players didn't turn up i.e. Johansen, Armstrong, Mulgrew etc, but with the captain not playing well then it could have had a subconscious effect on the rest of the players. The only people who can say for sure on what went wrong are the players themselves.

Allan has, so far, only played 23 minutes for us which was a sub appearance against Dundee United, and you're already judging him as being "lazy and uninspiring"?

You're right about Çiftçi, though, as he has pretty much done the square root of * all in any of the games he's been in. I wasn't excited about his acquisition, but with it still being early days I'm hoping that he can find his feet and be a good player for us. It's still very early days with him.

 

Your objections are valid but I still don't think the idea is absurd. It wouldn't be easy but it is feasible given the money at stake in these qualifiers.

 

Well yes it was a lazy uninspired signing who we only seem interested in after Rangers made an offer for him not to mention he played in the league below us.

 

I'm only saying it's absurd because of how unlikely I think it is to happen. What you're essentially saying is that you don't trust Deila to be our manager/he isn't good enough. Having someone essentially babysit him for a season, I believe, would create more problems than it would solve.

 

Of course the exact problems are guesswork, but the proof is in the pudding: unless you think that is impossible to prepare your players to deal with a qualifier in Malmo, then the management clearly got something wrong

 

A club who finished 3rd in the Scottish Championship last season playing against quite a good few part-timers (and who were completely gubbed emphatically by Motherwell) are on the same playing level as the current champions of Sweden?

Just because they have had about 3 or 4 decent results to the start of this new season doesn't put them on a level playing field as Malmö.

 

Is Owen Coyle looking for a job at the moment?