The Ronny Deila Thread

Lennon had a negative net spend. He literally spent less than what he made us.

 

And you know for certain he never yes? As I've said already today, if the players cannot get themselves up for a game in Europe's biggest competition, I'd question whether they should be pulling on a Celtic jersey.

 

Did that look a motivated bunch last night?

 

Even those players you mentioned as being 'proper' ones didn't exactly play well over the two legs, especially Broony.

 

We had some players that looked motivated. What we didn't have, was enough composure and ability on the ball.

 

Aye last night in particular wasn't one of Broony's better nights. Unfortunately.

 

So you're basing the fact Lennon is better than Ronny for that 1 game, Lennon failed in the cups many times, we also got pumped out of Europe in his last season and done poorly in Europa League under him.
Ronny wants us to play a similar style in Europe as we play in the league, not just typical Scottish style of defending like *.

That's a strong spine of a team, but they never turned up last night except Gordon ( who saved us from an even bigger embarrassing defeat), once they regain composure and confidence this team can do well in Europe.

 

Should Celtic FC ever have taken on a manager who (especially a season on and two failed Euro campaigns later) was classed as a LEARNER. ?

Our most successful periods in recent years have been with experienced managers... Not Ronnys fault for being ambitious and taking the job, but should he have been offered it in the first place?

Who knows what the real truth was with Keane (not that I'd want him) and other candidates at the time...

It's know that Henrik was 'sounded out' and a LOT of us would like him to succeed where he is and come back to us eventually... But HE recognises that he is a learner and wants to make sure that wherever he ends up (Celtic or bigger club) that he is ready for it and not setting himself up for failure.

And on another note..
Yes .. Ronny is learning still, he makes strange choices and subs. (Some obviously for reasons we never get to hear about) but isn't that where the assistant manager comes in? Especially one who IS well experienced in the Scottish game etc..

A bit of " hey Ronny! Whit ye doin' seems to be totally absent!

 

They were so motivated they were scared shitless. I highly doubt a single one of those players didn't want to win that match. If anything, they probably wanted it too much, knowing all too well everything the club (and the fans) had riding on this one match. Ronny should have played this match down, rather than hyping it up.

 

A big criticism I have always had of Ronny is that I was unconvinced he was a winner. A proper winner like Lennon or Roy Keane. He is quoted as saying he would rather go out of the CL than to get through the way Chelsea did. I dont want noble losers or valiant efforts I want to see us qualify first, everything else comes after.

 

Does nobody that the tie was lost as much last week as last night. 2-0 at home after 10 minutes we should have been redoubling our efforts. We also seemed to be defending our 3-1 lead instead of pushing for a fourth.

 

I know that. It still doesn't change the fact that he got 10m to rebuild the Mowbray fiasco.

Ronny then inherited a better squad than Lenny so it's six and two threes really.

 

Bullshit.

Show me something that suggests Ronny Deila is a definite step up from Neil Lennon. Thus far he has done nothing to warrant that accolade.

 

Our captain gifted them an opportunity to get back into the tie. That's when things started to unravel. We should have had the game put to bed last week.

 

Why wouldn't they be motivated though? Surely you don't need a manager to get you up for a game of that magnitude?

Rev. I.M. Jolly could have done the team talk and they still should have went out there and ran through brick walls.

 

im afraid i dont think Ronny has the ability to take us anywhere, he has * it up three times now, i go every week and i dont see any consistant high quality, he is becoming a major concern for me!...shame cos i like him as a person, the Ronny roar is now looking like the Ronny rattle! He better get his finger out,

 

Correct, perhaps there wasn't a balance - psychologically. They wanted it so bad that they crumbled, they couldn't cope with the occasion and the anxiety told. Ever since Ronny came in, bar last seasons qualifiers I haven't seen the team so awful and scared shitless on the ball. This is disappointing because everyone was so comfortable against Inter.

I think that is down to Ronny as well though, setting the team up ready mentally to win. We should have beaten them last night, we have the better players and we were largely the better side last week. If we had won 3-1 last week, I think we'll be through right now. The 2nd away goal * us. Calling for Ronny's head at this time is absurd. Europa IS our level, for now.

 

He got the McGeady money aye but the way you are going on is that they were throwing cash at him.

The accounts said that Ronny spent 6 million ish in his first window (mostly loan fees it seems) and media reports for his second window has that in and around 2m. 2m shy of the Forester money.

 

What defines a 'proper winner'?

Deila won as a player and a manager before he came to Celtic.

 

No of course I'm not. I am citing it as an example of something Ronny will need to achieve in order to put himself ahead of Lennon though. That was a really good Champions League campaign we had that year, it wasn't just one great result against Barcelona. The performance we put in away to Barcelona and Spartak Moscow were also very impressive. Ronny Deila hasn't got anywhere near those heights in Europe as a Celtic manager yet. Ultimately, he will need to or he will lose his job.

If Neil Lennon had been knocked out of Europe four times in just over a year with three of those eliminations coming at the hands of Legia Warsaw, Maribor and Malmo I get the feeling you'd be giving him a lot harder a time than you are giving Ronny Deila right now. Thus far, Deila's record in Europe as Celtic manager is pretty pathetic. That's just a fact.

I repeat, I am willing to cut him some slack because of the dearth of quality in the squad but sooner or later he is going to have start getting better results and performances in Europe. If he doesn't, he won't be here.