The Ronny Deila Thread

Huns were favourites, the fact that they're a riot makes no bearing on the fact they were favourites at the start of the season.

* they were favourites 3 years ago

 

Would you have had them favourites? I honestly didn't think they would win the league at the start of the season. The bookies were still putting them strong favourites not so long ago against Hibs. Hibs were 3/1 at Ibrox back in February just. That was after pumping them twice. That's why I said about the bookies not being able to price them right all season.

 

They weren't my favourites, I didn't think they'd win it either but they were unquestionably the media and bookie favourites.

 

I'm not disputing that. I acknowledged that they were favourites with the bookies. I just didn't think they were as strong odds on as they were. My point is, I personally don't think Hearts achieved anything special. I expected them to win the league, which they did, and they were knocked out of 3 cup competitions very early doors. Granted, I don't think they will have been too fussed about them, but it did mean they only had one competition to focus on really. They have picked up more points than I imagined they would, and Neilson has done a good job, but manager of the year, not for me. Should Inverness win the Scottish Cup, and it looks likely they will qualify for Europe through their league position anyway, then it would be hard to argue against John Hughes in my opinion.

 

I agree with that, Neilson is ahead of McIness for me. I would still have Deila though, rookie manager coming into the biggest club in the country, the hardest job in the country, changing the ethos all throughout the club, winning two competitions while competing as Scotlands sole representation in Europe?

That trumps a Scottish Cup final win and 3rd place for me.

 

You have to take their budget into account. ICT has impressed and could win their first major trophy - Hughes for me

 

Aye, that's impressive. I take into account the scrutiny and pressure the managers are under, Yogi took over a team that was on the up and has done well, got them playing nice football but he's in a pressureless atmosphere. There's no expectations. Anything is a bonus, to do what Deila has done here in his 1 season is something that no other manager in Scotland could have achieved.

So it's Deila for me.

 

On the same token, I'm sure John Hughes would swap the pressure if it also meant swapping the finances available.

 

That seminar was something else. You can feel your brain cells multiply every time you listen to the man.

 

Of course, it's a bigger job, it still doesn't mean he could thrive under it.

I'm not demeaning what Yogi has done in any way, I actually think we should be keeping an eye on him for a future Celtic manager but I just think in the situation of an untested manager, coming into the biggest job in a league he doesn't know, winning a double and competing well in Europe as that countries sole representive on the bigger stage? I think that's bigger.

Yogi's the closest to it but I think Deila's achieved far more this season.

 

What nobody giving it to Derek 'Marcelo Lippi' McInnes :icon_mrgreen:

 

Maybe thats why Griffiths doesn't look like the dunce he looks in your avatar anymore :smiley-laughing002:

 

I'm going to disagree wholeheartedly with the bit in bold, and I'll leave it at that mate.

 

Worth a look, was always a forward thinking manager at Falkirk fitness wise, teams play cracking football, he seems to have improved tactically. If he keeps growing like he has in the last 7 years or so 6/7/8 years down the line in his mid 50's he could grow into it.

Would never be anywhere near the top of my list but if the alternatives were Coyle and Roy Keane, I'd rather have a Hughes.

 

If we were to go for a Scottish manager, my pick would probably be Hartley. But Hughes is a decent shout.

 

Another man we should keep a note of there progress, along with Jackie McNamara.

Doesn't mean they'll ever be good enough to be our manager but we'd be daft to ignore our market.

I think Hartley will be a cracking manager though, I don't know if I'm making the connection because he was his manager under us but his teams remind me of Gordon Strachan's.

 

Robbie Nelson, taken a strong Hearts side, under a lot of demands, and wiped the floor with the Championship. Deserves a lot of credit, and for me he would deserve the award.
McInnes, performed very well under the demands of keeping up with Celtic, securing a mammoth points tally for an Aberdeen (or any team bar us) team. Had he done better in the cups, there could be no doubt about that either.
Hughes, performed well early season, slipped away in the league. Cup run has been well deserved, but got the rub of the luck to get to the final. A final where if he wasn't in it, he wouldn't be considered for the award.
Deila, immense pressure to come in first season and drastically change the club. Players have come in and been shocked (in a good way) with the change in fitness levels etc. Overcame a shakey start and is set to break 90pts for his first season along with a cup+league double. Performed well in Europe and has Scottish football looking a lot better than it did 12 months ago.

For me it's between RN and RD. Either one deserves it. If it goes to the others, then they are having a * laugh.
RN gets the nod for how well he has done, not because of any short comings of RD. Same as how close Aberdeen are to us in the title race is not because of Celtic being bad, but how well Aberdeen have done.

 

Bitton doesn't look like he has the height of intelligence in your either! Ronny can clearly work wonders.