The Ronny Deila Thread

Alex Ferguson was the master of it

 

Indeed.
Souness was a bit of a * too.

 

Been on here sparingly over the last couple of years. Bought into the Deila plan, thought he could create something that would last a good few years. Unfortunately, Deila is to rigid in his philosophy - rather than adapt and change Ronny has one system and that's it, it's his way or nothing.

Sunday wasn't down to an exceptional Sevco team, it was down to our inadequacy. We've seen St Johnstone, Falkirk, Alloa etc attack that team and beat them. We sat back, either through poor tactics, poor management, players not giving * or sheer incompetence. Sadly, going by the comments from players and the staff, it seems like it was a combo of everything.

Ronny Deila is an example of what is wrong at the club just now. An attitude of just enough seems to exist. A malaise has worked it's way from boardroom to playing staff. We could have built a foundation to last a generation. Make ourselves unreachable in Scottish football. But we did just enough to get by, When it counts we don't have it in us to go that extra step. The players don't have it in them to dig in, the manager doesn't have it in him to motivate or inspire and the board don't have it in them to advance the club.

Ronny Deila carries the can for results, but so too do the players. There are some who should follow Deila out the door, likewise the board. It's time for change at the club - lets hope it's a positive change.

The gutting thing is, that wasn't a good Hun team that beat us - they did enough against a complacent, inadequate Celtic team.

 

The thing that gets me is that we were absolutely shocking on sunday and yet still created most of the best chances in the game. we made them look good when in fact they are very,very average. A pumped up ,clever and tactically aware team would have wiped the floor with them.The manager must take responsibility.

 

Regardless, Clarke would win plenty with us manager, of that I am sure.
If Lenny can get us to the Last 16 of the CL, so can Stevie Clarke I woudl wager.
I would take the rap for Clarke if anything went wrong, which I doubt would anyway.

I agree - Clarke guided West Brom to their highest league finish in over 30 years. The following season after a bad run and an appalling injury list - West Brom sacked him (another two managers have gone since!). He got Reading to the FA cup semi final and was offered the Fulham job but showed loyalty to Reading - a month later Reading repaid his loyalty by sacking him not even halfway through the season. Reading aren't much higher in the league that they were under Clarke.

I would prefer Rogers then Moyes but I think Rogers will go back to Swansea and Moyes to Villa. If that happens, I would certainly go for Clarke above Lennon. He has a lot more managerial/coaching experience.

I think there is a lot of selective memory about Lennon. Some of the football was pretty dire and he wasn't all that great tactically - admittedly a lot better than Deila but who isn't? As well as the Fosters and Wanyama's, he also signed a lot of duds who cost Celtic a lot of money - Juarez, Derk (whose injury record was available for all to see), Bangura, Pukki, Balde, Murphy.

Hailing from the 6 counties myself, I'm a big fan of Neil and I wish him well (especially after going through all that * off the pitch as well). However, I honestly think it would be a backward step to bring him back to the Club - the Deila project has been a total failure and as a consequence, we have wasted the opportunity to bank a lot of European money and put ourselves streets ahead of the huns.

However, this is where we are and I think we need to look forward not backward - the next managerial appointment has to be right and I honestly don't think that going back to a previous manager is the answer.

 

Did Lenny sign Derk? It's just he was paraded during the Maribor game as our new signing.

I'm not sure about Clarke as it worries me why he keeps getting sacked even if he's doing alright. I do realise there is a lot of romanticism regarding Lenny, myself included and I would like to see him here but mostly I would like the best manager the board are willing to spend money on. We wouldn't need a massive transfer budget, just a clear out that is going to happen in the summer anyway and then 3 good quality players around £2-3 million each would make us well equipped to qualify for the CL and win the league, hopefully a cup or two.

The thing about Lenny is he's pure Celtic and you can tell how he got his players to reach the last 16 and 99 points in the league because they played with heart and soul. Something that has been missing. So that's why I wouldn't mind seeing him if we can't get anyone else of top quality.

 

Yep - Lenny signed Derk (supposedly for 3m) in July 2013. I remember there were a number of newspaper articles pointing out his abysmal injury record so his subsequent lack of availability at Celtic was no surprise. Perhaps he wasn't fit enough to be paraded until the Maribor game

I agree Lenny is pure Celtic and I certainly would get right behind the team if he were appointed. I just think a new start is required.

I'm quite surprised that (assuming we can't get a marquee manager) - some posters are very dismissive of Paul Hartley. He got Alloa promoted in successive seasons, then got Dundee promoted and has done a great job keeping them in the SPL with virtually no money and unearthed some gems - (Greg Stewart, Kane Hemmings).

He certainly wouldn't be my first choice but I'd sooner have him than Malky MacKay or some of the others that have been mentioned.

I really hope we don't go for Michael O'Neill - fair enough, he's done well with the North's team but so did Laurie Sanchez but when he went to Fulham he was a disaster. O'Neill's club record is decidedly average - I certain wouldn't want him particularly as the IFA would want quite a lot of compo because he's just signed a 4 year deal.

 

Interesting
but figures/numbers on their own can be misleading

Apart from confirming how poor/unlucky Mowbray @ Celtic was .

there are several factors Delia has not had to put up with

Other Managers were also having to be coping playing in Europe for 1.

2. Hearts, Hibs, Dundee Utd near all were much better quality a few years back

the overall qualitv of the Scottish game has declined from MON GS and even Nl tenures, Sevco were just a symptom.

Celtic could have and should have destroyed all in Scotland and been in Europe
Delia failed a much more straightforward job, likewise players Lawell bought in were quantity and medicore.

 

Doesn't really matter. The League is a cert and we've * up in the Cups yet again so these stats are rather immaterial.

What about the most damning statistic of going through a European campaign winless for the first time ever & getting papped out the CL 3 times in 2 seasons?!

 

I wont waste much time on that flop Deila. Another 4 matches and then he is gone. Was the shittiest season to watch Celtic for a long time. So much anger and Frustration. So much non motivated Performances and so much deluded post-match talking by him that made our blood boil. He can stick the ronny roar up his * and * off.After Lennon he is a huge dissapointment and 3 steps backward. And our board is just watching. Hope this is a proper warning to sort it out before huns are back. This celtic is soulless.

 

If sevco would have been present in the league the stats could be less competitive for Ronny. And it is not only the average points. I can not remember a more gutless celtic team in the last 10-15 yrs. Might be only comparable with the 90s/early 90s late 80s during the 9iar.

 

Despite predicting our board's inability to make an effective decision re Deila if the inconceivable happened in Sunday's Scottish cup Semi, every morning I wake up and see this guy still at the helm depresses me that little bit more. Wish there was a fast forward button to this season to get it all over with. Worst in my time watching Celtic (since 95/96 season.)

 

Statistics are misleading. 2012/13 would be unanimously voted Lenny's best year yet statistically 2013/14, where many are saying the team was in decline, was worse.

 

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footb...ve-lost-their-way-under-ronny-deila-1-4104350

Paul McStay doesn't feel sorry for Deila.

 

Can't say I do either. An intelligent man, educated to a high standard, repeatedly making the same mistakes.

 

i think many of us foreseen where Ronny was taking the team.. its not been in the least entertaining and only the Sevco Saga has kept our shortcomings from being focused upon earlier.

For he's a jolly good fellow..
but useless in the cups...

oh for he's a jolly good fellow ... etc etc

Thoroughly likeable guy, talks a great game, and think everybody wanted it to work out for him .. sadly he's just not good enough at the job. ( and the rest of the management staff must shoulder some of the blame)

He should go NOW, nothing he is able to do will get us anywhere in Europe and a new manaager deserves to be appointed asap.. Ronny caan take the team until end of season but the announcement should be made this week

 

Elfsborg? Oh my * my memory, how embarrassing! I was at that game too but I remember hardly anything about it, except obviously now that Derk was paraded hahaha. * knows why I thought Maribor.

Anyway thanks for correcting me as I can get it right now when I mention it to folk in future :smiley-laughing002:

I remember be very excited about him too, I thought he looked like a good player even in his jeans and t shirt.

SuperZidane, I don't think there is any chance we'll be hiring Malky McKay or any manager untested in Europe. That is what I'm hoping the board will be looking for anyway because even though Ronny had some experience it wasn't enough to get us into the CL and that should be top of our list next season. Or at least the next season once the new guy is totally settled and made the team his own. The major problem of course is remuneration, who can we afford? I like the idea someone mentioned about giving him a small basic but a huge bonus if we qualify due to the cash we'd receive.

 

I do and I don't. I wanted it to work out for him but I agree that the same mistakes have been repeated too often.