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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

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  1. Liam Scales

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    So you would think that he can no longer manage Celtic because of his stint with Bolton?
     
  2. ordinaryman

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    If for one moment we suppose there is the possibility of Lenny coming back, why would he? If the stories are right, The Board said something like, "we don't have the money and are downsizing even more". What's changed between then and now - if anything it's worse than 2 years ago, so why if Lenny didn't fancy it then would he say "yes" now? On top of that, and I'm not a fan of Ronny, if The Board sacked Ronny, there's all his backroom staff as well as the 2 Johns - presume Lenny would want Gary Parker + A N Other, maybe Steve Walford.Then he would want money to bring in his players. So if at some time in the future, it's Ronny gone and A N Other in, it will cost mega bucks. Until Ronny walks or fails to meet preset targets, - and one of them could be winning the Double - he's here to stay.
     
  3. ordinaryman

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    I wouldn't want Lenny back - he made his decision and we should all move on, however your comments about Bolton are unfair. That Club was in dire financial straits for the time he was there - this year especially - with periods where players went unpaid. If he thought he had no money here, then it must have been a culture shock down there. He saved them last year, much to everyone's surprise, but couldn't do it again.
     
  4. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Inconsistent.

    Didn't even remotely intimate that.

    I don't want him at Celtic for number of reasons, the main one being that he left citing lack of backing then joined a Club on the brink of bankruptcy.

    Now he's relegated them and been sacked we are not his back up plan. Celtic are not and never will be anyone's safety net.
     
  5. Antz1888

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    Ranieri shouldn't be top of the premier league going by that rationale considering he's failed in his last few jobs. Most managers fail at times, it happens.
     
  6. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    It was his decision to join the Club - the fact they were on their * wasn't a surprise to him.

    I thought he'd do well down South, I still think he can, but he made a * of it. Pure and simple.
     
  7. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You've missed my point entirely. I'd be a hypocrite to suggest Moyes is the answer and Lenny isn't because of his last job. That's not what I'm getting at.
     
  8. Liam Scales

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    It was those reasons I was wondering about. He didn't cite anything when he left btw, he's never came out publically and gave his reasons.

    I wouldn't * ourselves over just for that wee bit of pride, him leaving doesn't wipe out 14 years of service to us being subjected to stuff that no other manager/player has went through in our history.

    Safety net is a weird way to put it for me but fair enough.
     
  9. Mince.Charming

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    Let neil bring back the thunder
     
  10. Sean Daleer Show Israel the Red Card Gold Member

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    Neil Lennon's football was boring and predictable. Ronny is just inconsistent...

    I give up.
     
  11. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    I thought he gave a not so subtle hint shortly after that he left because the Club needed financial backing to move forward?

    We wouldn't be * ourselves over by replacing our Manager with the Manager before him. Nor would it tarnish anything he has ever done at Celtic not to consider him.

    Cringier than the Roar.
     
  12. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    You're twisting things. Again.

    The football at the end of Lenny's reign was boring IMO.

    The football under Ronny has been quality and poor in equal measure. If that doesn't align with your opinion then fair *, you don't need to get your knickers in a twist about it.

    My biggest bug bear with Ronny isn't his style of play, it's the fact he is naïve in Europe and his refusal to alter things significantly when it's clear they aren't going to plan.

    I believe those 2 things are achievable. Particularly when there are clear signs that he is developing talent, as his remit forces him to.
     
  13. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    The same could be said for WGS maybe not you I cannot know that but there were a lot of complaints. The only 2 managers since Jock to get us to the last 16 of the CL. Perhaps both were victims of their own success by raising our expectations.
     
  14. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Nup, both were playing boring football.

    Strachan, in particular, brutally boring.
     
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    Good point about expectations, because as a Bhoy of the 60s that's how I judge us. I know it's 50 years ago but the stuff we play now it could be 500 years ago.
     
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  17. Liam Scales

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    I just can't see the boring football aspect argument for Lenny, I loved his football, particularly his last 6 months and his first season. The worst football was our last 16 season, when he went entirely more defensive and lost the partnership of Stokes and Hooper due to injury.

    The amount of goals we scored in the league his last season was incredible. Loved the diamond formation.
     
  18. Murph-E

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    The football in Lennon's first full season was absolutely superb. Really boring by the end tbh. Tactically in Europe he was superb as well, using Samaras as a far wide left player/target man was a stroke of genius. You had a large percentage of fans saying "play Hooper and Stokes ffs!!" when he first did that, but Samaras was so clearly our most dangerous player in Europe, and Lennon used him perfectly.

    I really don't think Lennon deserves any criticism for tactical choices, whereas Deila most certainly does.
     
  19. Bratfurdbhoy1

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    And Deila could have brought big Sammy back!!! :54:
     
  20. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    It's a fact that many were happy to see him go after his last Season. That wasn't because they didn't like him or the fact he was losing Titles clearly which only leaves one reason.

    We scored so many that year because everything Commons touched hit the back of the net, similar to Griff this Season. If we score at the same rate we have been in this run in we'll reach around about the same ton mark.

    Nah, why was he lambasted for years about not playing Stokes with Hooper if his tactics were that spot on? :56: