The Ronny Deila Thread

If you're asking why I think it can work, we've seen how Roberts changes games, Christie done almost as well as him in the development squad (and loves the club) and it seems like they have a great understanding together with Allan. Rogic has been a game changer for us a few times this season. Tierney can't be denied is a spectacular product of this season. Jozo looked good before being injured and him, Sviatchenko, and Charlie make a solid group of CBs. Ajer is one of the most exciting young prospects in the world and I have no doubt that we would not have landed him without Ronny. And Janko is certainly worth a shot with Lustig in clear decline.

 

I can't believe the crap on here today, Ronnie is changing games by his subs, he is changing his formation the Ronnie roar is back yady yady. If Rogic hadn't have scored his last minute blinder against a team fighting for relegation, what would people be saying? And don't forget it has taken us 3 attempts to beat kilmarmock ffs. Those fans shouting for the Ronny roar will put us back years, that's exactly want the board want to see, starting to think this muppet will still be in place next season. * forbid.

 

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I say 1 more year till the huns come up see how we perform then .

 

Aye so we'll just stick about wae players that can't cut it just in the hopes that they come good when they are in their late 20s?

 

Are some * on here blind? There's a reason 60% of people on here want him gone, scraping by 2nd bottom kilmarnock with a hit and hope shot when we were arguably the worse team yesterday isn't going to change that. The fact that we are at the end of march and most Celtic fans were creamin themselves cos Aberdeen got beat to stop a title challenge when we should be light years ahead of every one in Scotland is one example of how * he is. Ultimately it's the board's fault but manager wise it's Ronnie's, he's literally turned a Champions league team into a team that can't even get a win in the Europa league. He obviously has some talent considering what he done in Norway but he's been given enough time and it just hasn't worked out here, and i'm hoping we don't keep him next season to see if he turns good especially with the huns coming up.

 

Hard to argue with this. Although, like others have said, there's still time for Christie and Allan hasn't had a proper crack at the whip despite impressing when on the field at times.

Our squad is bloated with average or below average players. There needs to be a clear out. Pronto.

The summer window is probably our biggest window in years. I'd like to start afresh.

The hardest part is who do we actually keep? I'd hope, not the manager.

 

Ok that's fine.
But look at the history of our managers.
Wim Jansen, Venglos, Tommy, Macari, Brady, McNeill, Hay all done absolute * in Europe managing our club.
We had Stein then everyone else in between until O'Neill recently.

I'm not saying I'm happy with our European form this year I'm not, it was embarrassing.
But surely there is more to a manager of Celtics life than Europe?

 

People are forgetting how bad the ninenties were in Europe.it was oneil who made us a good name in Europe again,strachan and lennon continued that.think wim jansen could have made us a force again if he stayed for a few more years,he done well against a good Liverpool side in his first crack at Europe signed some real quality in Larsson,lambert,rieper,mahe,burley.

 

To answer the same question twice...

Why does it always have to be taken to an extreme with some people? That I disagree that players should be stars by 23 or be punted does not entail that I think we should keep everyone regardless in case they come good. Ever heard of a "grey area?" How about we keep players who've shown talent at whatever age and work to develop it?

 

Would love Ronny to be a great manager for us obviously, but there's been no evidence that the team is being shaped in a positive way.

 

Look, there's no point in ripping the guy at this stage. He's here until the summer at least, so if he does go at that point why not have him leave with his head held high and another league title winners medal in his pocket?

I'm hoping we win the double, and if we do he deserves another shot at things, although he may not get it.

But it's one game at a time for now, and as long as we keep winning we can at least say we won the league and kept the run going in a season where we were pretty below par.

 

I don't think anyone is forgetting How bad the 90's were mate, there's just a recognition that, well, it's not the 90's anymore. Our expectations should be vastly different.

The sane criticisms of Deila - terrible European results, poor transfer record, poor style of football, less than stellar domestic results etc. still apply despite a win over Kilmarnock and a fist pump.

 

Surely you have to have some optimism regarding the transfers we've made of late? Sviatchenko? Christie? Ajer? Roberts?

If we can get to the summer, move on some higher earners and replace them with young players of a decent quality, along with one or two quality loans then we're on our way.

 

You have very extreme examples of Vardy and Lubo tbf. It's like the idea that some people have that we should stick with Deila because Fergie took a few years to build a successful side. It takes a '1 percent' scenario and suggests we operate on that basis.

 

Optimistic aye, but in the case of Christie, Ajer and Roberts that's mainly based on the fact that they've hand so little game time. We would both be slating someone for sitting here and saying they were pessimistic about these signings given the fact that 3 of them have hardly featured.

For me our squad is extremely bloated in some positions, while still being relatively short in others. Surely after 2 years in the job and 20+ signings that's not an indication of a good signings policy? We're in an unfortunate position where we're probably going to have to unload a number of Deila's signings, just to give another batch of his signings (or our own young players) and game time.

 

His domestic record is better than a lot of people give him credit for. His goals per game ratio is highest it's been for over a decade (O'Neill).

Europe was * yes, but we have no RIGHT to anything in Europe. We are small fry.

I'd take playing * from here till May winning 1-0 and nearly jizzing in my pants with a last minute winner to playing tiki-taka and getting * 3-2 every game and losing the League and Cup.

Wouldn't you?

 

People still think Wakaso, Tonev, Allan etc were Deila's signings?

Yes his record is patchy so far, but for *'s sake. Name me a Celtic manager who got every single signing right...

 

I wasn't using Vardy and Lubo as a benchmark for quality at all, just as examples that players can find form later in their careers. To suggest punting a player like Allan who has talent just because he's 24 and hasn't yet become a regular is daft IMO. I don't think he'll be a superstar but he can definitely make an impact and that's as good a reason to keep him.

And I'm sure Allan will get his chance soon enough. Ronny just may be taking more time easing him in because he's diabetic. Allan did admit it was difficult getting up to fitness when he first arrived.

 

We can't just discount bad signings as 'non Deila' signings and give him credit for the good ones mate :smiley-laughing002:

Show me a definitive list of his signings and those who aren't his signings with some evidence behind it and maybe I'll change my mind, until then I'll assume he has the day on all of them, as he himself has said.