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  1. Sonic Reducer

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    We've been run hopelessly for years.

    The example being they've now almost overtaken us when we should be out of sight with all that money the club have raked in.

    Let that sink in.
     
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  2. LectersLuncheon

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    The old saying that rich men don't become rich by giving more than they get is very true.
    There's also the notion that almost all western billionaires and CEOs are high functioning sociopaths, and in some cases, psychopaths.

    No one can tell me lunatics like Bezos and Musk aren't cracked in the * head with out of control ego's. Christ, even Bill Gates family tree looks like the Manson family. He's related to Lizzie Borden ffs.

    Desmond's custody of Celtic FC isn't the protective role that he claims, it's an extension of his * ego.

    The * doesn't care about Celtic. He certainly has nothing but disdain for the fans.

    This "as long as I'm alive I won't sell my shares" * is indicative of that. Just like his refusal to actually invest a * penny of his own personal money into the club. Or to even show up to an AGM.

    The only way to rid this club of his tryanny is to buy shares. Bit by but, chip away at his hold. But that could take decades to have any real impact.

    There's an outside hope his son will one day want to do things differently. But it's highly more likely the little * has daddy issues and wants to be a carbon copy of him.

    I seriously don't think there's a future where we're not saddled with this *, unless his wife cracks him round the back of head with a frying pan and wakes up thinking he's Jesus of Nazareth, and gives all his money away.
     
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  3. john2061

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    We have had plenty of chances to bury sevco and be winning this league for the next decade but this * board seems reluctant to do so and there's seems to be agenda with them to be just ahead and spend little money as possible.
    But the * have become complacent and now the zombies can over take us if they win their games in hand .
    If we had brought in 4 or 5 quality players in the summer we would not be having these problems but like Europe they want to spend as little as possible but with a bulging bank balance.
     
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    Can't agree with the conspiracy theories. Has to be pure incompetence from the board.. we are an ideal club to flip 5-7 mill young talents. We have the players like jota van Dijk edouard etc etc as prime examples.. yet we roll the dice on a host of players who can only be regarded as shots in the dark... Give Rodgers the players he wants FFS

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  5. john2061

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    I'm calling it now the transfer window will show so out of touch the board is and will be happy to hand over a £50 million plus cheque to sevco .
    I bet we get 2 permanent signings in the 3 million bracket and 3 loan signings.
     
  6. ddub11

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    If fans want to get the boards attention they need to stop putting money into their pockets,that will never happen so the board will never change the way they operate.

    We will never win CL and the board will never invest big money,win the league and that will do the board,their stratergy has more or less worked the last 10 years or so and they have a wad of cash stashed away so as far as their concerned from a business point of view all is well.

    We as fans see it different but that means little to the board as long as we keep putting the money into the club.
     
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  7. Ryanm1984

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    Petrol bombing their cars seemed to work
     
  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    The issue is those sales you mention are too sporadic for me. Every other team we are hoping to emulate does it year after year. We struggle with consistency in our recruitment which is a major issue.
     
  9. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Teams like Ajax, Salzburg, Club Bruges, Young Boys are proactive in their transfer approach.

    We seem to be far more reactionary to someone leaving. When these teams know that players are going to be off come the summer, they're already mapping out the spend required to replace that player adequately and upgrade the team in other areas, which is what we should have done with the Jota money.
     
  10. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Aye. They even take a similar approach with their managerial appointments.
     
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  11. Celtic_Daft1888

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    I agree.

    I listened to a podcast a few years ago about how Stuttgart ran their footballing department, from managers and staff to players. So, Stuttgart were basically the old Burnley(under Dyche) of Germany. Didn't spend much money but were more hammer throwers than footballers. They liked hard, gritty defenders and big men in their team. They basically wanted to outrun and outmuscle their opponents. Quite happy to not dominate the ball and sit in and then hoof the ball up to one of their giants up front and hit on the counter attack.

    Everything in recruitment, to staff/managers/players was set up to do that. I can't remember who the Sporting Director was at the time but he had been in the papers over there for making a comment about how he would never appoint Pep Guardiola. He got loads of stick for it and basically the reason was, Guardiola would never have fitted into the system and style that they had in place, while he was Sporting Director.

    There would have been no point in them signing someone like Sergio Aguero, who was the main man at City at the time. They would rather have had a Dzeko. Simply because that was the style of their football and the thing they wanted to do was continue to be successful.

    We need something like that. While I believe Rodgers was the best manager we could have had, on paper, I think that had we appointed Muscat, Maresca or Knutsen, you would have been able to see there being a clear plan and structure at the club. It seemed like, on this occasion, we went for the biggest name we could get, which was similar to how we went with Eddie Howe. I'm also not for Dermot Desmond hiring managers and then taking zero interest in the decisions being made at the club. Hiring a head of recruitment should be exactly that. He should have a list of potential managers in place and I don't doubt for one minute that the name at the top of Mark Lawwalls wishlist would have been Maresca. City Group, man. Either way, it would have been a clear and coherent plan.

    We don't have that at all.
     
  12. RockhardBoss

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    “My intention is… to make sure we evolve and modernise the club. So what does that mean? What that means to me, is looking at every single part of the club. Whether that’s football, whether that’s business, whether that’s engagement. Making sure we’re benchmarked – are we the best we possibly can be? Are we world class in these areas?"

    “If we’re not, let’s become world class, and go on a journey towards that. If we need to enhance and bring people in, we’ll do that. So the football structure… is an area which I’m obviously very interested in. I’ll look across the whole of the whole football structure, and engage with Ange on that.

    “One of the great joys of bringing Ange in, is his great experience in Japan, great experience in Australia at club level, but also at international level. So together, we’ll look at that as a football environment. And we’ll make the right decisions for the club going forward.”

    “There’s clearly some roles to fill. But before I trigger any roles, I want to make sure I’ve got the right long term structure. And I’ve spent a lot of time over the last number of weeks speaking to other clubs across Europe. Making sure I understand their structures, what’s working, whether that be in recruitment, in the Academy, in the football operations structure.

    We'll never know what happened with Dom Mckay but I'm sure no CEO will make public declarations about structural change again.
     
  13. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    This

    We should be selling someone for £15-25m every single year - and probably another one or two for £10m+

    A club like ours should be a revolving door of talented players, signing for reasonable fees and moving on 2 years later for a fortune (relative to us).
     
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    Arguably we did have that but as you say it all kind of gets completely thrown out the window bcoz for some reason we allow an out of touch auld * with 34% stake in the club to have 100% control over every big decision.
     
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  15. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Correct. Matt O'Riley will be gone in the summer and it will be right for him and right for us. It's how we use the money that's the issue for me, though. Could we have spent more in the summer? Undoubtedly so. But it's not like £20m wasn't a decent chunk of change. We just wasted it. £20m could have been used for 4 players who would have came in and made a real impact.
     
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  16. murphy88

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    We could take in £15-20m for O’Riley. We will then scatter a proportion of that money over 4 or 5 transfers and still have a decent amount of change leftover.
     
  17. honda Gold Member Gold Member

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    We could keep him, spend that amount and still have near £60m in the bank anyway..
     
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  18. Martybhoy53

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    We have dinosaurs running our club who are totally out of touch on how to run a successful football club in the 21st century. All these * care about is the profit. Nothing else. Like the Kelly’s beforehand they are treating the custodians of our club the supporters with utter contempt. It’s now Desmond and the Lawwell’s. There is total disconnect between the supporters and the board who are akin to the mafia. Get them out of the club and put in people who actually care about Celtic not money grabbing tight fisted Tory *.
     
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    We could. I completely understand though that we need to be selling players for profits as well. It’s what we then do with the money I’ve got a major problem with. We would probably bring in another 10-12 players over the years for the same price O’Riley cost us initially trying to find his replacement. We go back to square one.
     
  20. NakamuraTastic

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    Well if people are always going to go to the games then option B is for the whole ground to * the board every home game.
     
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