"The Biggest Derby in the World"

nah, just the violence

 

Aye, exactly this. Never let them forget that Rangers Football Club 1872 is dead.

 

that's about it

 

Sensible in what way that Rangers are still the same club,some people may have you believe that but it's a pile of * they are gone,and what we have now is a tribute act in its place being followed by the same idiots,I couldn't give a flying * if we never played whatever they are again that sensible enough for you

 

Yes, but you dont support a club or define the ethos of a club based on it having a UEFA licence. Im sure you dont support celtic because of anything to do with who owns the holding company of the football team. I can happily live my life without them but of course Rangers still exist. You only need to look at our own Rangers thread to see that many of our fans remain as fixated as ever on them. If the two teams were drawn together in the cup next season at celtic park it would be certain to sell out, and would probably be our only sell out in our domestic season.

As regards being the "biggest" derby, I think that is very tough to quantify but no I dont think it ever was. Barca v Madrid is a lot bigger for a start. But no doubt it is up there amongst the biggest.

 

I was replying to his point about them being the same club which they clearly aren't

 

Man how can you say we will never have to play them tho? Just the law of odds say that we will. Its nice thinking we wont but it is going to happen eventually. At least in a cup tie. The ones investing in Sevco Rangers are dead-set on having a Celtic-Sevco game in the future. The way they see it, their business prospects rely on a game in the future.

I think we will play them and I also think that there will be even more venom in the game and the atmosphere than ever before. The only real hope in us escaping that reality is if we find some way out of the Scottish league and thats another thing that will never happen. The English FA don't want us, they've told us that, over, and over, and over, again. Theyre fine with the Welsh, but not with us.

 

If we ever play them again.. the thing I'm worried about is our players bottling it and losing the game. That would be horrific.

 

Playing against a bunch of amateurs? I wouldn't worry too much.

 

Oh dear

 

Why? I couldn't see anything wrong with the bit you put in bold. Am I missing something? Not trying to be a *; genuine question.

 

I hope they never get the chance to play us,they don't deserve to play a CL team like us,Ramsden Cup more their level.

 

Ive been lucky enough to visit all the top European football derbies over the years, for spectacle the Belgrade Derby tops the lot but for sheer hatred and rivalry that means much more than a football match twice a season the Celtic-Rangers game is the fiercest and the atmosphere at its hottest is unmatched and unique. In no other city dies football make such an impact on daily life and culture as the Glasgow derby.

Down in England Milwall-West Ham is as fierce a game I have visited by a long way, Liverpool and Manchester derbies are small fry!

Alot of the big derbies I visited in Europe bar Mad-Bar were different in the respect fans in opposite colours could be seen mingling in the streets outside the ground, something you could never imagine at the Glasgow derby!

 

I don't agree with that at all,are you just talking about atmosphere here?
They are all big games in there own right but galatasaray-fenerbache,Red star-partizan,olympiakos-panathinaikos while hotter maybe more partizan crowds are not bigger than the old firm derby..
How many of those are known worldwide? The old firm derby is known and watched all over the world,everyone that used to sign for one of us the one game they had seen before was that game!

It's the one thing that the English hated,all those millions a much bigger country yet they still didn't have a derby to rival the old firm and they knew it..

Arsenal-tottenham
City-united
Newcastle-Sunderland
Villa-Birmingham
West ham-millwall
And there biggest one united-Liverpool didnt have a patch on ours and that's a fact...
Another reason why they never wanted us both in,the biggest game in the premier league would be between two Scottish clubs

 

Sorry, but I disagree.
the Old Firm has everything:
It is the clash of two cultures: Celtic and Anglo-Saxon
It is the clash of different classes-working class ( OK, I suppose both teams have fans in this class, but I believe that most rich people support the huns) and aristocrats
It is the clash of different ideologies-republicanism and monarchism ( unionism)
Find me one more derby in the world which has all of this.
It is the clash of different ethnicities: the Irish, the Scots, the English
Although there are people of different religion groups who support both teams, we must say that Celtic fans are predominately Catholics and the Huns are predominately protestants.
Turkey Poland Greece Serbia Croatia-most of the fans are hooligans. Imagine them without fireworks, flares, firecrackers? I am sure they can not sing as the Celts, or imagine the Celts and the Huns with fireworks, flares, firecrackers.

 

IMO both clubs are mostly working class with a large middle class minority. In my experience people from the upper classes tend to follow rugby rather than football.

 

It sounded straight out of a hun manifesto. It indicated that the club and company are different things when even the SFA's own articles of association clearly state they are considered (company and club) as a single entity.

 

Didn't know that.