thats it time is up!

Still too * off to write anything constructive. Just so sick of dissapointment.

 

Kev you`l get over it - They are not worth it, Celtic dont pay your wages. We should be used to it...but were talking celtic we NEVER do anything the easy way and we NEVER seem to win games when it matters. - Parkhead = Apathy at the moment.

 

Problem with T Mowbray is his weakness to galvanise and bond his players into a solid fighting unit they have no leadership or direction and at the sidelines there is a non animated figure in mowbray at the lack of showing his players any willingness to driving the team forward even if the game is going against us just like most of them have and will likely continue to the end of the season...Sadly!

 

It's not well said.. His post was bunkum and the moment people start harping back to the days of Strachan is the moment they lose the debate because Strachan wasn't even the answer in his final season and left us as runners up in the SPL and embarrased in Europe in his final season before TM took over....
M'ON does also get it tight at times with one of the accustaions being that he couldn't compete when he didn't have his talisman Larsson , but both managers are fairly irrellevant to the TM period and there's enough ammuntion for folks to use without bringing up previous managers to somehow use it against TM , as all it does is show that they are stuck in the past...

 

with the amount of money spent and players brought in celtic should have been at least beating the other teams in the league if not comfortably falkirk aberdeen kilmarnock hibs no excuses

 

Fair enough but long term fans have seen a * of a lot of managers and you get to see patterns. I think Celtic managers of the past break down into two groups-practical tough minded managers who keep the game simple and win stuff and then there are your football idealists who talk a lot about their football values etc. They are usually fail at every crunch. I honestly cannot believe a guy of Lawell's age didnt see Mogga as one of those guys. Exactly the wrong sort of manager for Celtic IMO and Lawell must have had a real lapse of judgement.

An example of the right sort of manager would be Wim Jansen. A quiet guy, says little, keeps it simple, keeps most of the players he inherited but signs a few real crackers of players down the spine for small beer that make us a very tight unit. The team plays very disciplined football rather than flowing stuff but we are extremely hard to beat and have lots of big game players with the winner mentality. Total cost minimal. Probably right now Rangers are much closer to that sort of team than we are. I think we are very reminicent of the Barnes and Burns teams where there is more talent in the team than our opponents have but the team blend is all wrong. Sad thing is the kind of players its missing include the very guys Mogga sold. Mogga clearly has gone down the line of getting rid of the SPL players and going for technical players like Ki, Kamara, Braffheid, Fortune etc. Well I have seen this tried before several times by one of the OF and it doesnt work in the spl.

 

i think ive sed this before but i think we just need to get mogga drinkin and out of his seat, somethin to make him look as if he wants to be there, if i were playing 1 down and saw some clod playin with the front of his hair i wouldnt be motivated to score, id give up

 

That post has got too much "hindsight" for my liking..
Wim Jansen was a success in his year here , TM hasn't been so far , so saying one is the right type of manager and the other isn't just doesn't do it for me Im afraid.. Both brought strikers with them who they had good working relationships with.. One was Larsson and availabe for a pittance , the other was Fortune and he cost a fortune.. IMO Timing plays a huge part in a managers tenure for various reasons and if they get off to a bad start you often find they never get the time to turn it around or they just can't.. I blame TM for many things this season but I would still be wary about punting him right now because I believe he can turn it around but I have swayed more towards thinking "whatever" with regards to the whole thing...

Would Mark Hughes be the right manager because he builds teams that bully rather than get bullied yet play with width.. maybe ideal for the SPL.. What about Steve Mclaren ? He took Middlesboro to a UEFA cup final and won them a cup..

I don't believe there's a guaranteed winning formula for the right manager but there's obviously a wrong formula and TM seems to be from the same school of thinking as Le Guen and maybe Barnes to some extent where he wants to see 20 passes from defence to attack before the ball ends up in the oppositions net.. It worked for him before but if he's stubborn and insists it will work again , given time , then he may well be fighting a losing battle..

My hope , and this has gone from belief to hope , is that TM will see the errors of why we aren't winning games and I mean leadership throughout the team and especially in a playmaking central midfield role.. For me that area is a key one to improve us.. N'Guemo will dovetail nicely with a playmaker but it has to be someone who also can win the ball.. I don't think we can experiment too long with Crosas and Ki before deciding they aren't the person required for our first team (summer time at the latest) and if that's the case then Im going to have serious doubts about TM because he'll be running out of options and eventually something will have to give..
Brown getting the captaincy has already backfired and I feel he's better off gone elsewhere , so there's definately room for moving one or two out for money and moving one or two in to replace them in the summer.. It would either be seen as the final piece in TM's jigsaw or the last throw of the dice as there's no doubt a huge turnaround is needed..
As far as Im concerned it's all down to TM and what he's currently thinking.. If he's not fazed at all and feels the job is in the early stages and is as determined as when he was appointed them Im firmly in the "stick" camp.. If he's having any doubts about the size of the job and his ability to achieve success or he's unsure if his football principles will work then he's got to come clean and make it known to the powers that be so the tenure ends one way or another and the club can go forward..
I feel that's how things will actually pan out , so for every day he stays in the job it's one day closer to him eventually turning it around and giving us the results and football that we all crave.. I feel he's an honest guy who knows when he is beaten and will walk , but that time isn't here yet..

 

I don't think he has a clue what he's doing. We play with little confidence and no heart, we'll never get the better of a shrewd guy like Smith with Mowbray in charge.

Lambert would be far better IMO. I'm surprised Miwbray is still in a job today and kinda concerned about what it says about our financial position and our ambition.

 

Was a bit annoyed at your rant against my post until I read it all and realised you're as clueless as Mowbray.

Steve McLaren. That's right. Let's replace one of the worst Celtic managers in recent times with one of the worst England managers.

McLaren might be doing well at Twente but having witnessed how poor a player Braafheid is I think the Dutch league can't be much better than the SPL.

 

I'd rather eat my own hand than have mcclaren as manager.

 

McLaren and Hisz Comical dutch ehhhnglish interview