Sky turning down the volume on our fans

You'd be surprised if you read much of History and Politics thread. I'm sure political opinion is much more widespread than you'd imagine.

I'm glad you're doing well, long may it continue

 

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And if people of Irish decent were being quite literally murdered in cold blood by police officers in Scotland and people had been saying this was happening for decades and then finally in the last few years some of this started to be caught on video because everyone has a cameraphone these days, do you think there might be some riots here? Would they be justified?

 

I've seen people playing both football and basketball, but I didn't recognise the football tops. Perhaps they are Chinese teams?

 

In a word, no. Lets look back to a horrific act by American police, the murder of Rodney King. How they got away with this was a shocker however what followed was terrible.

An innocent truck driver was beaten to a pulp of his life, Reginald Denny. The riots of looting shops in their own town was embarrassing, what the * is the point in that?

Racism in America is rife don't get me wrong,if you read some of my previous posts i do agree to this. However i feel some BLM stuff goes too far.

 

Dude, if you know all this, then I'm not sure what has to happen to justify riots in your view. I genuinely don't understand your position.

 

I have no idea of any basketball teams anywhere in the world. My knowledge of Chinese football is the same unfortunately.

Partly that is due to prejudice and well basically no broadcasting of games. I imagine the sudden injection of cash is a long term project and the standard is probably still quite poor to watch.

I feel sorry for BLM, it looks like their peaceful campaign has been hijacked sometimes. The problem for black people I think is there will be the majority who wish to protest peacefully but there will also be a certain minority who have just said enough's enough we're not putting up with this anymore, anytime we do things peacefully nothing happens so lets rock the boat a bit.

I could be wrong I'm just guessing. But it can't be easy being lower class and black in America.

Mind you I don't think it's the best life in the world in London either.

I think any place there are ghettos there are going to be confrontations with police which make things very tense.

 

It doesn't help that it's pretty much engrained in the brain of most average Americans that these stereotypes actually hold true.

Cops don't trust black people and for that reason those people will never trust cops, but you gurantee that the cops won't let even a peaceful protest happen without overseeing it. Armed, as always. Must be hostile as *.


With regards to that clip from fox news in Chinatown, that is probably the most horrendous piece of racist garbage I've ever seen to be proclaimed as "news". I always knew that their news programmes were a load of agenda-driven *, but that is moronic on a different scale.

 

I'll never justify a riot. Be it whites,black,catholics,jews,protestants etc etc. A riot to me always insinuates violence and trouble. Protests is what i'd approve of.

Whats your opinion on Mark Duggan? A known gang member with a history of drugs who carried a gun. Was his death unlawful? give me peace. Riots stretched from south to north of England because of this with innocent being the main people affected by this.

I completely agree with your post. BLM does get hijacked by folk with a more sinister approach. Same as what happens in this country.

Being an black american in parts of Texas for example must be *, but to take it out on innocents IMO is *.

Put it into context, have i sympathy for British soldiers being killed? Give me peace- * them. Have i sympathy on those affected in the london bombing & the riots after Mark Duggans death, 100%. The wrong people get caught up in these riots all the time which is not right.

Anyway,think we've been a little sidetracked from the initial thread!

 

Aye stereotypes create quite a problem but that's all about education, both for the cops and training and for ethnic minorities to maybe try to communicate with the police in a way they can maybe understand each other. That probably sounds like some daytime soap opera rubbish but it has to be tackled somehow. I'm not convinced politicians are fully committed to trying to do something about it.

I heard even some taxi drivers won't stop for black people in New York. That is totally bizarre.

If more money was spent on inner city schools from a young age then attitudes and relations can change too. But as soon as you mention money the rich act as if you're robbing the treasury. There appears to be quite q big culture of private education in America? I know the person Trump has assigned to education wants every school to be anything but public. She's very into Christian schools apparently. So what does that mean for non Christians?

I think the Chinese are almost regarded as legitimate targets of racist humour by the right wing. I have no idea why this is so, maybe because they don't have a history of conflict? Still no excuse and was really insulting.

Mind you Trump wasn't very diplomatic when he was describing Mexicans and the need for a wall along the border.

Appears to be it's easy to get away with casually racist comments in America? Although there is a rising tide of right wing politics in Europe too.

 

I hate coming across the racist * but stats don't lie. nearly all black homicide victims is by black people. More blacks are likely to kill cops & there was a report done that black cops were more likely to shot than white cops.

Please,i cant stress enough black people in the states must have a hard time by police but this stat is pretty staggering.6000 Blacks were killed by other blacks in 2015, yet 258 blacks were killed by police,what does that say?

and that clip in Chinatown was hard to watch, fox news needs shutting down. Absolute joke of a station.

 

Id agree with most of that first part. The champions league and europa coverage is top notch. I do enjoy their bt Europe channel as well, fonstant round up of European football.
The only thing they are missing is the Saturday bonanza as you say.

 

Statistics show that in America (Which is where im from) more white people are shot by police per year then Blacks. But the staggering statistic is the Black on Black murders... Leaps and bounds ahead of any other group on group. Im pro equality but the BLM riots are causing a scared police force and is leading to people having haetful feelings towards a whole race just because a riot is shown on tv...

 

You were making a reasonable point up until this post. You can't just look at raw stats and use that to push an agenda that black people are inherently more prone to violence than white people, which is bullshit.

Black on black murder is caused by the ghetto drug filled gangland conditions that some of the people live in

More likely to kill police, of course they are when they are treated as they are by the police!

I'm not being an apologist for anything here, but you need to think about the cause of these stats before using them to fan the flames of division

First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal to brothers, give 'em guns step back and watch 'em kill each other

 

Aye, thats been created for over how many hundred year leading up to now. Black people kept at the bottom, worse educated, poorer and mostly stuck in the shitehole areas, when you start off like that going back generations then it's inevitable that theres going to be much more crime going on where they live than other areas, so it's not suprising.

Same will happen here now, 20 year ago you probably hardly got any foreign or black people involved in crime in Glasgow as there was none really here but now theres much more, must be atleast 10x more people from Africa and Asia here now and almost all of them now live in the rougher areas, which means the rougher schools where they learn the same things and make pals with people from there who are the ones who will end up involved in crime. 20/30 year from now people will be complaining that all the refugees etc that came here are now criminals when its obvious that thats whats going to happen cause thats where we stuck them.

 

I swore I was in celtic chat.

 

Whats all this * about ?

 

Looking at why Sky turn the volume down on us and at least we've got an answer.....

It's the Black's in the ghettos..

 

Coverage was horrendous yet again. 15 minutes for post-match analysis in what is supposed to be Sky's flagship Scottish football fixture.

And * is up with Ian Crocker? He used to be really dynamic, past few games he's been really half-arsed.

 

KEEP THIS THREAD ON TOPIC

 

Interesting that Rangers fans keep complaining our mics where turned UP.

Load of nonsense.