Sion appeal

Fixtures or ticket info reflecting reinstatement to Europa still isn't on celtic web. Starts next thursday, fans need to know what's goin on

 

http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=1518

they are selling the tickets from tomorrow

 

i think on one occasion they did, when AC Milan got booted from the CL because of the match fixing etc.. they then got put back in and then went to win the * thing the year kaka knocked us out in ET in the 2nd leg the swine.

if i'm honest it because of something like that being overturned that i'm holding my breathe on staying in the EL

 

Quelques précisions qui montrent que la FIFA et l’UEFA ne sont pas blanches dans l’affaire.


- La FIFA a autorisé de manière provisoire le gardien El-Hadary à jouer lors de son transfert d’Al Ahly à Sion. C’est un membre égyptien de la FIFA (viré pour corruption depuis) qui a déposé plainte.

- Le TAS avait dans un premier temps donné raison au FC Sion suite à une erreur formelle de la FIFA. La suspension avait en effet été envoyée au mouvement jeunesse du FC Sion et non à l’Olympique des Alpes SA, société qui gère le FC Sion.

- Philippe Mexès, lors de son transfert à l’AS Roma, était lui aussi toujours sous contrat à l’AJ Auxerre. Le club italien s’en est sorti avec seulement une indemnité à verser au club bourguignon.

- Le TAS a refusé en 2010 la demande de la FIFA d’infliger 2 autres périodes supplémentaires d’interdiction de recrutement. Malgré le rejet du TAS, la FIFA a voulu infliger de force ses sanctions supplémentaires.

- Plusieurs observateurs sont dubitatifs quant aux agissements de la FIFA. Parmi, eux
Jean-Cédric Michel, avocat spécialisé en matière de droit du sport, l’affirme dans les colonnes du Nouvelliste : « C’est Platini, l’UEFA et la FIFA qui ont du souci à se faire, pas le FC Sion »

 

You can helop but think Sion have some sort of case, i mean if sports lawyers are saying that then they must.

 

They didn't beat us, we won 6-0 on aggregate. :bbpd:

 

@obol

I don't think that it is very useful to Celtic supporters if you just copy French articles in here without making any comments on them or providing a short translation. Google translate might be ok for 10 line messages, but when it comes to longer articles, it's getting awful to read that nonsensical stuff.

I don't agree with this. There is a main principle in law called "innocent until proven guilty". So if Sion claim to have served their ban, UEFA should not hand out any sanctions until the TAS has proved that Sion are wrong. That is my opinion. If this is a problem for UEFA and their competition, they must make sure that the CAS decides quicker or at least before the competition starts.

 

Buisness law and crime law is different in this case Sion must prove that they did not cheat which they did. They knew before hand that these players were not allowed in international comptetitions which also means they delibretly cheated which does not bode well for the appeal. I understand that you connect these 2 cases one of the transfer enmbargo and one for fielding ineligable players but its two different cases and until case one is solved these players will be ineligable thats how the rules are. Also it doesnt matter if UEFA is based in Switzerland because its an international organisation and Courts cant decide who gets to play competitions only if they have broken the law but thats for case 1 still doesnt remove the fact that these players were listed as ineligable and were delibrely fielded.

Sorry for my spelling im really tierd :bbpd:

 

FIFA/UEFA are not a court. "Innocent until proven guilty" implies a public trial, as opposed to a hearing. An organisation such as a football governing body will always make internal decisions based on its own regulations. This is not to say, I'm telling you that one party is right and one party is wrong. What I'm saying is that FIFA/UEFA had the RIGHT to do what they did, and Sion have the RIGHT to ask the courts to then regulate. The chronology of how this is playing out is exactly as it should be.

Who is right and who is wrong is a different arguement from how the appeal/counter-appeal process works.

 

Can't see them changing their mind twice, they'd be a laughing stock.

 

They should have taken our away record into account! :icon_mrgreen:

 

They have been proven guilty 3 times, by FIFA, the CAS and the Swiss high court, how more guilty would you like them to be proved? They can't just claim they've served their ban, they get told when it's over. That would be like someone going to jail for 3 years and after 2 they just claim that they've served their sentence and want out.

 

Sion seem to base their argument on the Swiss court ruling allowing them to play these players oi switzerland.

If so to my mind if this is correct then uefa could award them the 3-1 win in switzerland. The swiss ruling does not allow for these players to play outside of switzerland therefore they forfeight the game in glasgow 3-0. So thats a 4-3 aggregate win for Celtic. either way Celtic are through

 

maybe I'm cynical but it's in the best interest of a sports lawyer to say there's a case. How else do you fee for weeks of work on their behalf......

 

My thoughts excatly

The swiss courts have no bearing for the match in glasgow. (they can come over to edinburgh sheriffs courts if they wish, they need some help).

 

News from Constantin's propaganda radio station: http://rhonefm.ch/fr/informations/i...c-sion-ont-ete-deposes-sfl-discrete-337-45221

In Short:

- We will not know the outcome of the Sion appeal at UEFA in time (before the beginning of the group stage) as the process takes to long.
- FC Sion have taken the matter to the local court of the district where UEFA are based (La Côte)
- The players concerned took the matter to the district court of Martigny as they already did when it came to obtain superprovisional measures for playing in the Swiss League

We should know soon (Friday or even tomorrow) whether Sion will be accorded superprovisional measures by one of the courts (that would be enough) or not.

 

what do you think personally?

 

Are you asking me what I think about Sion's chances or if I think that it is ok what they are doing? Or do you want to know if you can book your flights or not?

 

what do you think of sion's chances and do you think what they done is right