Should rebel songs be sung at games?

Charity is not politics.

 

I actually agree with that but if international anthems are to be sung, it would be nice for FOS to be included in the regular repetoire. I really cant see how anyone could take offense at FOS unless they are English and somehow remember family being killed 800 years ago! Its a good song and takes us back to the period before there was any religous divide in Scotland and unlike the Jacobite songs which represent one faction, all Scots should be able to relate to the Wallace/Bruce periods that the song refers too. Another thing about FOS is it specifically indicates that violence should be left in the past as a method of getting independence now and in future, something I agree with. Personally I prefer Scots Wha Hae but its not got the sing along quality of FOS. As for Irish songs, I prefer the ones like Fields that refer to the famine time which my ancesters actually experienced than the Soldier Song and republican songs of the early 20th century which my family never had anything to do with because they were three generations gone from Ireland by 1916.

 

He likes the Corries.

 

I never said it was if you look that was my point abount having rebs sung at Celtic Park

 

or certainly it is more tilted towards socialism. As has been posted before, Bro Walfrid would have had nothing to do with Michael Davitt if he had not long before renounced violent republicanism and become a major thorn in the side of those who took the path of violence. I think by then he was more of a socialist. As a socialist I have never been entirely happy with nationalism. Traditionally the two philosophies were mutually antagonistic because you either see the world divided by economics and classes or you see if divided by nations, cultures and flags. I see independence for Scotland through the SNP as a route to a small socialist state (eventually) like Sweden and detach us from the problem of being attached to a much larger and often more right wing nation whose votes will always dwarf ours and who will always drag politics to the right. The SNP are just the vehicle to get in, not the destination.

 

You said Celtic was founded as a charity, which is not political.

 

and politics was a factor in creating this charity. i didn't say it was charity, just helped in creating the charity that was celtic

 

i have to agree with James 1888 politics is always a factor in making people poor and thats where the charity comes in.

 

I think if some people were as passionate about their team, as they are about irish republicanism, we might have a better atmosphere at celtic park.

 

the sfa have now outlawed rebel songs, the same sfa who tried to take away the irish tri colour from flying over parkhead. they will try and do the same thing again if we let them walk over use

 

This is a very emotive subject from which the poll suggests, is divided around 50/50.
I voted NO because my football club is not the voice of Irish Republicanism nor the vehicle for political demonstration.
This should be a club of hope, unity and belonging and I strongly believe that this is the case.
I'm an Englishman and ex-serviceman who has served in the Province. I've met wonderful and beautiful people from both sides of the community there with whom the common topic was either Celtic or Rangers.
I've supported this football club since 1970 when I first saw Jimmy Johnstone. It's in my heart and it's definately in my soul (Thanks Rod Stewart!!).
Songs such as Fields of Athenry, Let the People Sing and This is my Land are great folk songs that have different meaning to different people.
I don't sing the off shoots of the political bile for these songs, but it annoys me that we have to sing that anyway.
I once got asked why I supported Celtic (he was being pseudo aggressive). When I said that I saw Jimmy Johnstone at Hampden in 1970 and I've been hooked since; it went right over his head and he then raged about Irishness etc.
Myself and my boy are both season ticket holders and follow the hoops because it's a great football team with great tradition.
The values and the foundations of the club are built on hope and unity.
We need to remember that this club exists for us and because of us, so let's talk about something else that unites the fans and not something that people feel divides them.

HAIL HAIL

 

I dont know about anyone else but this post is why i am a supporter of glasgow celtic because we are not and never have been a biggoted nor biased clubn and unlike "other" clubs we have always signed players based on talent and not on background and I for one am proud to say my club does this and this is partly why these rebel songs have no place because believe wat you will but not all our fans are either irish nor catholic nor even from the uk and hating people due to their religion is no different than racialy abusing a coloured player . People need to get out of the dark ages and while I am not irish directly I have deepest sympathy for anyone of any side who lost friends and family in the troubles but one thing is true a lot of innocent people on both sides were killed and theres a lot of nice decent people on both sides who want nothing to do with it all now all we have to do is make those numbers grow and then the knuckle draggers will be drowned out

 

Yew we should sing rebel songs. We always have, and always will. People who say they don't like them, why do you follow Celtic so? If you don't like rebel songs, don't follow Celtic, or at least don't complain when other fans do.

 

Are you having a laugh ? The decent supporters who want nothing to do with them are the true supporters not the scottish people who like to believe their irish and * do rebel songs have to do with celtic ? They practiced slavery for years should we have kept that too ? Just because you do something for years doesnt mean its everlasting so why dont you just leave and sing your songs elsewere

 

Although his post was abit risky, you cant say which set of supporters are better buddy!
He is as entitled to be at Celtic Park as you or me! But so is everyone regardless of what they want to sing. I just wish more of them would sing...whatever it is they choose to sing, bring back the old atmosphere!

 

So you're saying we should lose a Celtic tradition? Why not play in blue then? Oh, and why din't you leave and go to Ipox, where everyone hates rebel songs.

 

Why should we sing them? Not everyone is a Republican.
Why does a Scottish guy follow Celtic? Go figure ffs.

 

I agree about the Scottish thing. We should sing songs about Scottish freedom as well, seeing as it's (hopefully) on the way soon.

 

Who's talking about Ibrox ?.

 

Exactly what gives one group of supporters the right to tell an other group of supporters with different beliefs not to bother following Celtic?

Do you just ignore the parts of our history you don't like? Celtic are a club for all, and no-one has the right to say who can, and who can not follow our great club.