Scott Brown

Best excuse yet

 

The gap between what the core of Brown haters feel and what the actual football professionals have felt about him over the years shows to me there is a major attitude problem towards him/he never had the same deep well of good will and patience some other favoured sons got. Noone will ever persuade me that is not a big part of it for many.

Sure, he was rusty when he came back from his op in February and his passing was off for his first few weeks back but since he came back from the ban he has passed every bit as well as any Celtic player. I would love to see his passing stats over the last month or so since his ban. They are probably among our best. At the very worse he has been too quiet but the guy was only really back for a few weeks before he was banned and has only had a few games since. Crazy to judge him on this season anyway. Its practically been a write off for him with injury and suspension until the last few weeks. The last clear evidence we have of what Broony can do was last season and he was POTY and a couple of EPL managers openly talked about fancying him.

 

Do you have this post saved somewhere and just copy-paste it every now and then?

 

Every time I hear the usual OTT Broony hating I will challenge it. Once I think fans lose the unreasonable levels of Broony hate I will stop posting about it. If the flow of unfair assessment of Broony keep going then so will my rebuttals. Like the Aidan criticism in midweek after one of his better games, the timing of criticism of Broony is bizarre. He played well.

 

BTW you are just as constant and repetitive in your defending of Aidan.

 

The thread was posted before yesterdays game, it goes back to the humbling in the cup last week, where he was awful.

Admittedly he wasn't the only one, but he was awful all the same.

I was excited when he came in, I really was, but I've never been so disappointed in a signing as I have in him.

He's had his chance and he hasn't done it.

He should be moved on.

 

I thought Aiden was largely rotten yesterday and have said so in a couple of threads, check for yourself.

When did u last say Brown was rotten?

 

He was poor between his comeback in Feb and his suspension but I just do not think it has been possible to judge Brown this season until he got over injury, got match fit and got past the suspension i.e the last month. I think he has played well in that period, certainly has not in any way been one of our poorer players in that period. He has done his the main job of a CM in a flimsy 4-4-2 with two wee wingers, certainly better than NGuemo who has been poor recently. The same cant be said for strikers who rarely score like Fortune and Sammy or our dire CBs etc. Basically Broony is way down the list of problem players in recent games.

PS-I did praise and defend Aidan this week and pointed out that it was scapegoating too. I just generally think fans spend far too much time picking a scapegoat, often picking the wrong players to pick on.

 

I've said on umpteen occasions mate you are a good poster, but you are blinded by this guy, for reasons that are beyond me.

He is rotten, complete and utter pig in a poke that brings nothing to the team.

He can't play an incisive pass, he rarely scores, he doesn't get in the box (Petrov / Burley esq), he can't construct a 30 yard run without * up, he mis-times so many tackles it's beyond belief and has no discipline.

What is left beyond that in a midfielder that can justify the silly price tag?

All I ever hear is 'dig', 'aggression', 'passion'. * me, if that's all that is required, hand any fan a jersey.

You make it out like a hate-campaign or witch-hunt but its not, he is just crap.

 

Burley was an excellent player but he played in a much more solid wingerless MF of Weighorst-Lambo-Burley-Jackie. Stan played in the good pre-Seville MON team as the hole man or spare CM in a 3-5-2. Again a very solid packed MF with two other CMs (Lambo and Lenny behind him). In the WGS era we played a 4-4-2 with two wee light ball player wide MFs. That hugely cuts the attacking opportunities for a CM and both CMs largely have to sit. You cant have one CM defending and 5 men attacking too often.

I do however think Broony is wasted playing deep in the sitting role. A controlled slow possession passing game just does not suit him. He can play it but its a complete waste of his talent. People just write him of but he is great running with the ball when a game opens up and can twist and turn using his body very well. The problem is his game suits a high all action temp of the sort Hibs used to have. He has not done it near enough times but in flashes with us and with Hibs and Scotland he has looked truly awesome so its in there somewhere and if used right he could play at a very high level. I actually thought some of his best games for us and Scotland were the biggest ones, CL games etc.A couple of the games where you could see a full range of what he can do were the League cup final last season and Spartak.

 

100% more than what N'geumo, McGeady and Samaras give, yes I honestly believe Scott Brown is the spine of our team, take him away from our mid and who we got left with? Crosas and N'geumo? You really believe they have the same graft as people like lee mcculloch has for the huns? Our midfielder would get completely dominated without Brown in team, no fight and desire in any of these players. Many Celtic fans thought Brown was going to be one of the best midfielders in Scotland a couple of seasons ago, one bad season and suddenly hes *? Dont happen like that. Both Mogga and Lenny rate Brown because when hes fit hes rarely out the team, was put straight back into action by Mogga when he was barely fit, same with Lenny who obviously also rates him because am I right in thinking hes started every game since Lennon was appointed? Im not saying he hasn't had a dissapointing season but still our best cm by a long shot imo

 

Sorry mate, but you must be watching different tic games than me. Most of the games I see our midfield IS completely dominated and played through as if they are invisible, that's with Brown in the team or not.

 

Absolutely spot on 100% mate, can anyone remember the Moscow away leg this season? I thought Brown came on and completely changed the game, ran at the russian defenders and they were * scared, offered us more than game in about 10mins than what our entire mid manged to offer in 90, shortly after coming on Samaras got the 2nd goal, no coincidence. Many games have been changed by Brown and I think he deserves another season to prove what hes made of. Dont think N'guemo does Brown any justice either, because he is * our mid get over run at times and simply outmuscled by lesser teams with big lads in the middle thus making Brown look *. His best season came when he had some decent players along side him, (Hartley)
Played very well last week and has been unlucky this season with injuries at bad times.

 

With who alongside him? N'guemo or Crosas who have no strength what so ever, my 10 year old nephew has more strength than them! Get a decent mid alongside him and you will see a much better player

 

I actually quite like Broony but some of the excuses being offered up for him here are a bit of a joke.

It's N'Guemo's fault Broony has been * this season? Don't make me laugh.
Our midfield gets run over when Broony isn't in the team? Bollocks.

The best football our midfield played this season was when Crosas and N'Guemo were playing together in central midfield and Broony was out the team. Broony needs to get his head down and his finger out and that's the truth.

 

agree, though nguemo is just as bad , if we sign him il be gobsmacked ,


i would play :

Brown , nguemo ,crosas , mcgeady

for the rest of this season , browns better on the right.

 

Agree 100%

I'd like to see that midfield played for 3 or 4 games in a row to see how it would go. I think it could work.

 

Spot on! I seem to remember one game when Broony was just coming back from injury that TM played him on the right and he was fantastic. Can't remember who it was against or why he put him back into the middle. I'd love to see the four of them playing in the middle like that. Could you imagine, four midfielders playing in a four-man midfield, no strikers on the wings? It'd be crazy.

 

Im not saying it's N'Guemo's fault what so ever mate, he doesnt do Brown any justice because he's *. I have never said he has had a good season, Brown has been disapointing but I find it no coincidence his best season came when we had a good midfield who would graft and put in a full shift. Put Paul Scholes alongside N'Guemo and Scholes wont look as good as what he normally is. I have lost count how many loose ball N'Guemo has played and this results in Brown getting booked for getting back and trying to win it back. I agree 200% Brown needs to get his head and get his finger out but Im not going to sit here and say he's * just because he had a poor season, as has about 10 other members of the squad.

 

To be honest, I've seen Scott Brown giving the ball away almost/just as much as N'Guemo this season. So they're both culpable in that department.

The difference is that N'Guemo actually struck up a good partnership with Crosas whereas Broony has yet to strike up a good partnership with either N'Guemo OR Crosas. I'd move Broony out to the right side of midfield and see if he can find some better form in that position.