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Scott Brown

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by hkbhoy, May 15, 2007.

Discuss Scott Brown in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    when was the career threatining injury i accept the mitigating factors by all means but why then put more pressure on him and make him captain when hes struggling personally as it is i just dont think he is a good footballer sorry if this offends anybody
     
  2. odonno

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    end of the day for a CM he doesnt make nearly enough good passes or scores goals or successful tackles without getting booked, i think he should be dropped and i do beleive that the 4 million we paid for him has been unjustified
     
  3. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    I've been totally underwhelmed with Brown since the day he arrived, and that includes his POTY season (still can't get my head round that) but I thought he had a good game tonight.

    He seemed to benefit from the work done by Juarez and Kayal.
     
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    agreed, his passing normally needs to be controlled by another players chest or goes straight out of play. He can't tackle - i reckon Maloney made more tackles tonight than Brown. He runs about to no real effect. I haven't forgiven him for letting us down at Ibrox last year, bad example as a captain. Most people can't actually praise Brown without using the words passion, determination and fight. Well i reckon all 60,000 fans could give that but, like Brown, they don't have the talent to match it
     
  5. damo67

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    Average footballer that generally contributes very little to the team. Thouht he was decent tonight but was still the weakest player in our midfield 3. The guy should not be a regular fixture in our team, never mind captain. The key to winning most championships is the battle between players in the centre-mid position. Since hes been at the club we've won 1 championship (and Robson + Hartley played the majority of games in that title run-in.) If we can recoup any kind of money for him I'd be absolutely delighted.
     
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    Same boat, I'd like someone to tell me his outstanding attribute apart from running about like *, and im not saying he had a bad game tonight but like paul said he did benefit from juarez and kayal
     
  7. gunt

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    I agree he is not captain material. Not because of technical ability but because I think he is still a fairly insecure player who has been put into roles like holding/continuity MF that dont suite him. Broony is one of these guys who plays by momentum and instinct and is good on the break at speed. He is not great if he has too much time to think and a slow ball retaining possession game really does not suite him. His best role is box to box with some other guy doing the sitting role behind him. We saw that tonight. You could also see it in his first 6 months and his POTY season with Hartley doing the sitting for him.
     
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    Perhaps some of Brown's overexcitability has been due to nerves - i.e. not feeling quite at home with the midfield, feeling it wasn't quite clicking, and trying too hard to compensate?

    With two quality players in there with him tonight, he looked more like it. But I feel he might be even better if the weight of the captaincy was removed from him - I don't think it has helped him, and I feel in Majstorovic we now have someone experienced who is comfortable directing things and geeing everyone up.

    In all honesty, once Izaguirre is match fit for LB, I'd like to see a Kayal, Juarez, Ledley central three - but I'm heartened by Brown's performance tonight. Having slated him in the past, it's only fair to acknowledge a decent solid performance. Hope he continues to improve.
     
  9. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    you honestly think he is a box to box player i dont see it a box to box player scores goals i.e stan petrov i know brown is nowhere near stans level but cmon even the season your talking about with hartley sitting i can only remember 2 outstanding games 1 at love st and 1 at home against hearts when he ran the game and scored in both i still think he is a poor player who chooses when to turn up
     
  10. doctor venglos

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    I think Brown's best role is as the destroying defensive midfielder who can break up and disrupt the play of opposing midfielders. He does that really really well, and that is where his undoubted aggression and passion is best channeled I feel.
     
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    yes i agree he is good at that side of the game its when he breaks it up and has time to think he comes unstuck usually trying to find team mate with i dont know maybe passes
     
  12. Bhoys Abroad

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    Best game in a while although not convinced about him as Captain.

    However willing to see how he does in the new team. He needs a big season.
     
  13. doctor venglos

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    Thats it. We have Juarez, Ledley and Kayal to be the thinkers in this midfield.Don't ask Brown to carry the ball into the opposition's D, that is not his game.
     
  14. Breenzo

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    Maybe some serious competition in the midfield is what he needed!
     
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    Seen that on a guys Twitter, was Brown not linked with Newcastle ?
     
  16. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    could you then tell me please what is his game if it isnt finding team mates with the ball or eh maybe scoring goals
     
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    I think he is best on the break with space opening up. He does have some attacking ability. He is not a ball to feet guy. He is excellent when the ball is played into space in front. Another attacking aspect I think is not acknowledged enough is he is very decent and body swerve/twist-turn movements which often allows him to wriggle forward rather than side pass. Problem is (and this dates back to WGS's time) when he is the defensive CM and the last man he was instructed not to do those kind of risky wrigglng movements. That is a pity because when he was free to do that more it was noticeable how much more forward his movement was compared to many CMs. Problem with Celtic under WGS and Mogga (and even Lenny until this week) is if you play a 4-4-2 with two real wingers then both CMs have to do a lot of sitting and cant commit forwards a lot.

    You would be better asking why every single manager (Celtic, Scotland, Hibs) thinks Scot Brown fit or unfit has to play if available. I think he basically has the abiltity to do the covering work of 2 players and that is just too much of an advantage not to use and outweighs some technical deficiencies. Some fans call it headless chicken but I think they underestimate how much that disrupts the other team and wins the ball back.
     
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    but how much does that disrupt our play when he has the ball and cant find one of his own team mates with a simple pass and for covering work how many times have u watched him chase the ball down and have it played around him in a neat little triangle only to be left out of position and leaving space for other team mates to cover is this the advantage you are talking about?
     
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    nuff said. :50:
     
  20. doctor venglos

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    I agree with all of that. It really depends on which team Brown was or is playing with. With Hibs he had Thomson and Beuzlin beside him and he loved to go in great surging runs forward, and would also score goals, but notably not many. With Scotland he operates effectively both on the right and as a defensive midfielder. With us I am inclined to think his best role in our team is a destructive midfielder, as we play a passing game which dozen't really suit him.Brown plays best in a team that likes to swarm into attack. We are not like that, and I think Brown's game is still evolving
    which is a mark of his adaptibility and flexibility as a player, that he will unselfishly play in whatever role the manager of the team deems he is best suited for in any particular match. I feel strongly if we are to get the best out of Brown for Celtic then he has to be played as the destructive defensive midfielder who is breaking up and disrupting the opposition's forays into our half of the field, and by default taking the weight and pressure off our own back line, by pressing and harrying the opposition's attacking midfielders.
     
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