Ronny Out?

No, I don't think we will win the next two Europa games, especially with a clear lack of belief amongst the squad.

Can't fathom how you can say we only have one window when you know we have time before the qualifiers to sign new players in the 2nd window.

What makes you think that the cost of releasing Deila and then the cost of signing a new manager and backroom staff, would leave any money in the transfer budget?

Who could we sell in January to release new funds if we had a new manager?

The board have backed Ronny a fair amount in the transfer market. They're not about to wildly sack him and then face the cost of hiring a new manager and hope he wants to work with Deila's squad.

 

Blackett isn't the first to look terrified this season.

At some point you have to admit its not the players.

 

Well, I asked in the run-up to this game where all the confidence in us winning was coming from. Couldn't wrap my head around it. There's * all to be positive about surrounding the club these days, don't know how anyone sees this glass as half full.

Ronny is a dead man walking, which is in large measure his fault and fairly well deserved, though there's a conga line of players who've let him down. Guy has no luck either, whether it's a goal that would've probably seen us through to the Champions League coming off Johansen's * facing away to Maribor or whoever, or the home leg slipping from our hands v. Malmo. *, even last night, a win wasn't beyond us on balance.

Think his time is up, but it won't solve much if he's the only one to go. Time for a clear out. Players, managers... and since it's almost Christmas time and we're asking for things we'll never see, the board.

 

Ronny is here to advance our Youth Development coaching and also to introduce a style of attacking football that involves keeping the ball on the ground, no long balls and defenders passing it out from the back. He acknowledges some passes are going astray but if we wish to teach younger players how to play passing football we have to stick at it through think and thin untill it's drilled into the players and they play it naturally.

So he will be given time for these things to be accomplished. The only hope in sight for people hoping he will get sacked is August when we've completed the UCL qualifiers. If we're not successful he might not make it.

 

I know we can sign players in July to play in qualifiers in July. But it's hardly ideal is it.

 

You know what would be nice? Bringing in a youth development coach to you, you know, develop youth.

The style of football we play under Deila is utter bollocks and no amount of positive philosophy or impressive interviews will change that.

The worst thing is though, you're probably right. He likely will be given a fourth go at CL qualification because a section of our support simply refuse to see the blatant evidence that is staring them in the face. This man is not a good football manager, or at least not a well suited football manager to a club like Celtic.

 

To be fair I was worried about his insistance of playing through the bad times because we'll come good eventually. I thought he could have been a bit more pragmatic cause it just sounds stubborn. I don't understand what terrible disaster he's bringing to the club? We've had some bad games sure but you have to remember he's got nowhere near the squad now that his predecessors had. All the big names are gone and the biggest replacement Jozo seems injury prone.

I've yet to decide if he's a good manager. I think he will be good for Youth Development. I'm sure we have youth coaches. Ronny is just making sure the youth get to experience first team football training and other such things. He's given Tierney his big break. There are about 4 more in the development team who might make the breakthrough this year. Our Youth system is something to be excited about. What worries me most about his managerial skills is his problem changing things during a game. I don't understand why he refuses to make subs early on or even change the shape of the team if we are getting over run. Worst of the worst thing that can happen is one more season in the Europa league.

 

Just lol if you think any other manager available in the market is going to offer anything better.

The simple fact that some people can't accept is that the league is far too poor and the lack of domestic competition is killing us as a team, doesn't matter what manager you bring in. Until this problem is solved we will continue to struggle in Europe.

 

Yeah true but surely we wouldn't draw such a tough group again. Right now to be honest I would dread watching UCL names coming out of a hat. I don't think we're quite ready to face Bayern or Madrid. Mind you that is the fun of the Champions League, you never know if you'll get pumped or have an amazing game and get a result.

 

I think this could be a major problem unless competition is restored in the league. Reason being people aren't even concerned with the league anymore, it's just accepted as won at the beginning of the season. Problem this must have for the players is the sudden shock to the system when playing European games, it's a big leap up from domestic affairs. We might have good players but they need to be constantly tested to have that competitive edge. Worst timing for us though is the UCL qualifiers in July, we don't even have domestic competition to prepare for that. Not making excuses but it has to be recognised. I think there are some managers who could help us but they are out of our price range.

 

We are all falling into a short term ism approach to the manager due to our failings in Europe. We are seeing progress with some players becoming better and developing under the current set up. I do believe that a new tactic or approach needs to be found to continue to score goals but remain tight at the back. Domestically I would like Ronnie to be bolder and bring thru more young players when they are ready. But due to all the panic and crisis amongst the fans, this course of action is unlikely to happen until late in the season.


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Can't believe he is still here after all those failures.

 

Youth are coming through, he's just waiting for the right opportunites. After Europa group I expect to see more first team trials.
A new tactic that might create more scoring options while remaing tight at the back is a switch to 2 up front with target man Cole.

I don't think he's going anywhere. I read that the board are commited to the long term appointment of Ronny because he's making changes to the structure of the club that will ensure long term financial stability.

 

I, you're right, Deila has had maximised our potential as a club and a team. How could we possibly expect ANY manager to improve on back to back defeats to Molde?

You should section yourself if you honestly believe that to be true.

 

So we get another manager in, to me, that sounds like another 2 years of transition and no european success, I mean when have we ever even stayed in europe until after christmas in a managers first full season? Oh, wait.....

 

Fellow Tims-If you're gonnae shred this do it point by point.
1. * luck (nothin a manager can do about this)
a) Simunovic injured
b)Ref (who I thought was quite good overall) Does not book the player who injured Simunovic and books Lustic for * all
c) The fine margin of the disallowed goals (The last peice of the Leigh jigsaw - You have to be more aware of offside positions )
Players.
Goals
Did he coach Boyata to stand off the ball and compound it by turning his back
Did he coach the keeper not to dive when you see a 22 yard shot coming
Did he coach Blackett to head the ball into the ideal zone for incoming midfielder
Did he coach Kris Commons to leave the defensive gap when Johanssen was pulled out if position to stop the cross
Did he coach Johanssen to commit a daft foul 35 yards out
Did he coach 6 foot plus Rogic to jump under the ball at the back post
Did he coach Boyate not to aggressively hoof any ball near your goal lineand if your answer is no to all of these at who's door does the real blame lie
General luck
Keeper pulls off 3 great second half saves
Will Leigh ever miss a sitter like that again
Losing Nir (Rogic mistake left him no choice)
On the Ronny downside
Tactics suspect
Good players in ineffective positions
Substitions never really effective
He really must start learning game by game,not season by season.

 

I honestly don't think that we are that far away.
The Molde games were depressing to watch because we couldnt break them down and the players looked like they lost the belief that we ever would. For me, the biggest issue in the team is defending set pieces. If we had sorted that out we would be winning European games this year.
I do think that Ronny should have had a better plan to stop the Molde counter attacking game but the reality is if we could defend corners, we would be top of the group / in the UCL

 

In terms of pretty much all your "did he coach" points. I think these are weak as they are all recurring themes and points so the question is has he done anything in training to address these problems ?

Blackett has made a few very weak headers that have caused us problems ? Has he tried to address this ? If so it hasn't work. Johansen often gives away stupid fouls. Has he done anything to eradicate this from his game ? Again if so he has failed.

 

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