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Robson: Good chance McGeady will leave, Celtic fans must miss Strachan

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Markybhoy, Mar 19, 2010.

Discuss Robson: Good chance McGeady will leave, Celtic fans must miss Strachan in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Markybhoy

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    Really?

    Gordon Strachan's team was weakening and losing direction year on year. In the final two games of last season, when the league was there to be won, we could barely create a chance let alone score a goal. The football was absolute * to watch as well. I most certainly do not feel ashamed of the fact that I wanted Gordon Strachan out. I'm glad he's gone.
     
  2. Blantyre Bhoy

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    I think Aiden was probably more delighted than most Celtic supporters when Strachan went, I loves playing at Celtic, I don't think he has any problem with TM.
     
  3. celtic warrior

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    i'll agree with you there.

    think people need to remember just how many points we were to the good in WGS last season and then how many points we lost by in the end, WGS choices i think have been at times more outragous then TM like in the CL leaving out Skippy when he was on fire etc... i'm not standing up for either manager.

    the one point you made about the potential points total Rangers could end up on is probably one of the biggest point any one can make that although they haven't bought one in they seem to have got ALOT stronger and suggests that even WGS got a wee bit lucky in his 3IAR reign like many suggested back then.

    I think what i'm trying to say is that through the years of WGS and the 1 season so far under TM it feels asif there has been no settled squad which has led to were we are at now which TM has spotted and is trying to sort out and because of that you only have to look down the road and the squad is most importantly settled and i think thats were their passion and fight stems from they are close to each other and they all understand what it takes to play for team who wants silver wear which is what we lack at the moment once we got a more settled and togther team we will be laugh me thinks as we have the better structure to build on then they do, take over or not
     
  4. KMD1951

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    What are you basing your misguided optimism on? We've seen the job Mowbray can do - it's about the same as Barnes did. Ok, Barnes had some better players but so did Rangers back then. Nobody would seriously say that it was wrong to sack Barnes and that we should have let him have another crack at the title.

    I only want what's best for the club - and that isn't another season of the * we've been subjected to.

    I want a winning Celtic team and if they play great football then that's a welcome bonus. What we've got is a very poor team playing very poor football.

    I'll celebrate any success Celtic have under Mowbray for the feat of achieving it despite being hampered with such a clueless manager. Judging by the attendances recently there must be a lot of Celtic fans unworthy of celebrating any trophies under Mowbray.

    I was at Tannadice when we won a couple of seasons back and I'm certain there were more than a few anti WGS people there. Don't remember it having to much of an impact on the celebrations that night either.

    Your main argument for keeping Mowbray must be based on his incredible feat of winning the Championship with WBA. Who's top of the Championship right no. Oh yes, WBA. Under a new manager. Let's get him in becasue he must be the dogs bollocks in your World. Wonder why such a fantastic team are in the Championship and not the Premiership?

    In the last five seasons Mick McCarthy has won the Championship twice, Roy Keane once and Steve Coppell once. Tell me, if Mowbray goes, which one of these managerial greats should we try and bring in!!!
     
  5. celtic warrior

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    don't wanna be pickie but it's newcastle who are top lol
     
  6. doctor venglos

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    Your defence of Mowbray sounds like excuses to me, even though you concede Mowbray has been a disaster. I just can't fathom your * bent wish to allow a crest fallen and beaten Mowbray limp into 15 games next year, and almost certainly hand the Huns three leagues on a plate . I am sorry but you have totally lost me.

    Strachan had an impeccable record as Celtic manager as you well know, whereas Mowbray has been an unmitigated disaster to coin a phrase.

    I am not prepared to sit idly by and let an unmitigated disaster and loser like Mowbray further destroy the club I love and adulate.
     
  7. KMD1951

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    Totally agree with you on this.
     
  8. KMD1951

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    Fair enough - WBA a couple of point benind Newcastle. Hopefully you can see the point I was trying to get across.
     
  9. doctor venglos

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    You are forgetting that Gordon needed a new LB, CB and striker that January, but the Board in their infinite wisdom witheld their purse strings, thinking Rangers were down and out after the Kaunas defeat. Bad decision that was. Gordon wanted Gabriel Tamas for centre back, Lee Wallace for LB, and Stephen Fletcher for striker. He got none. And instead we got only Willo Flood. It is fair to say if Gordon had got what he had asked for, Tamas, Wallace and Fletcher then we would have walked 4IAR. You say the football was * under Gordon, then what do you think the football is under Mowbray, and we are a massive ten points behind the huns with them having a game in hand, and overwhelming goal difference ?

    I cannot understand your antipathy against a winning manager like Gordon Strachan and his impeccable record as Celtic manager.
     
  10. jiko

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    If you weren't so deluded into thinking everything was perfect during the Strachan era then you may be able to see things from a diferent perspective.. Your failure to even acknowledge the problems began before TM took the job is why I can't even take you serious and untill you do then any other points you make become invalid..

    And , rather than standing by idly and letting the loser Mowbray destroy the club you love , what exactly are you doing to change that , except for bumping your gums on this forum about how much of a loser he is , and how much you have a hard-on for Strachan..

    It's often the case that when people are deluded , the only opinions they agree with are those of their like minded..

    I guess what you are saying is the championship is not a good league , well I wonder if you and your chum Dr Jo have had this thought "If Strachan was so good , Skippy was so good and Robson was so good , as well as other Strachan signings Killen and Flood , then why are they toiling down the middle of the very same league when that loser TM manged to win the league in a canter , surely they should all be achieveing in the premiership"..
     
  11. Markybhoy

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    Impeccable record? I think not.

    We were awful after Christmas last season. Strachan also presided over the most embarassing European result in Celtic's history and became the first Celtic manager ever to be dumped out of both Cup competitions at Parkhead in the same season.

    Strachan did deliver us some trophies but his record was certainly not impeccable.
     
  12. DanniGhirl

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    It wasn't impeccable, no manager's reign ever is and it's complete delusion to think otherwise.

    Gordon Strachan decided to leave, and if rumours are to be believed then he decided long before the title was lost and we certainly had no fight or spirit for the final 6 months of his reign.

    I'm glad of the titles we won under WGS reign, but he's moved on it's time the fans did as well.
     
  13. KMD1951

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    Please find where I've said that I thought Robson was so good, or Killen. I think you'll find in previous posts I've made I've stated I thought it was time for Robson to move on.

    I was at Tynecastle just before Christmas and I thought it looked a shadow of the player who was so crucial to the three in a row run in.

    You have plenty to say about those of us who believe Mowbray needs to go. I've tried my best to give the reasons why I think he needs to go - poor team, poor decision making, constant changes in team selection, lack of any real previous track record. My reasons may well be wrong. Fair enough. How about you put your reasons down for keeping faith with Mowbray rather than simply spouting off about the validity of my argument.

    Your argument is one that a child would (apologies if you are less than 10 years old). Keep faith with Tony 'cos!!!

    Go on. Convince me with a grown up argument as to why Celtic fans like me are wrong and we should have faith in the direction Mowbray is taking us.

    As Mowbray leads us over the edge of the cliff you and the other lemmings that blindly back him will no doubt follow.
     
  14. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Anyone else find it amusing that alot of those who are calling for loyalty to be shown twords mowbary are also the same fans who were calling for strachans head in the one season we didn't win the league. :rolleyes:
     
  15. alsybhoy

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    i never ever wanted wee g to go tbh! never done much wrong and brought us success.
     
  16. Frank_the_bhoy

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    SUCCSESS:celt_2:

    Trophies last 16 of the champions league, strachan is 10 times the manager mowbray is and your personal vendetta Against him is obviously stopping you seeing that.
     
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  17. Frank_the_bhoy

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    It's simple mate if you don't agree with someone then you don't agree with them dosen't mean you are deluded.

    You are the kind of fan we have a lot of at parkhead, no passion you are sitting there pretending that everything is great, you refuse to talk about strachan's success as celtic manager and only want to talk about his last season.

    Are you for real or are you just determined to see next season a repeat of this, because with mowbray in charge that is what it will be.
     
  18. TAB

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    Making the text bigger will make him see it, right enough:rolleyes:
     
  19. doctor venglos

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    Three leagues in a row, two Last 16 CL places, and a myriad of silverware from Gordon. You are blinded by your incomprehensible hatred of Gordon Strachan. It really must stick in your craw how much Gordon achieved for our club, while you continue to pay lip service to that bumbling clown Mowbray who is steering our club to disaster.

    You should let go of this personal vendetta against Gordon before it eats you up.
     
  20. jiko

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    Wrong.. I backed Strachan right through his tenure with the attitude that as long as he was winning he was bulletproof.. I would have loved for him to replace the turgid pish stuff and get us playing flowing football and to a consistently high standard that meant the only way he could fail would either be to an SPL club who were over achieving , or through bad luck , injuries , ref decisions etc.. I had no problem with Strachan when he was at the club or since he left the club but I "thanked him and moved on" and gave my support to TM the moment he was appointed manager.. Since then I've judged him against what I feel he should be achieveing and come to the conclusion it's been nowhere near good enough... As I've said many times before - There's enough ammunition out there for people to have a go at TM based on his 9 months at the club.. I have no problem with people doing that , but when they start harping back to the good old days of last season and the previous 3 seasons when we were impeccable under Strachan , and had the fantatsic footballers Robson and Caldwell in the team , and how TM has dismantled the winning mentality , ripped the heart out of the team etc etc... If people want to slate TM for the job he's doing fine but don't bullshit me into thinking TM inherited a club that was full of players on top of their game.. If people don't want to acknowledge that the guys they are touting from the golden period , were actually part of the problem for the stagnation and then regression , then I don't see any point in having any kind of debate with them... It's become repetitive because no matter how many times I state my opinion (about the state we were in when TM took over) it doesn't seem to get through to people so I won't bother wasting anymore time on it. As for whether TM is going to bring us success or fail , that is down to people to make up their own opinions because you saying he'll lose the league next season , is just as credible as me saying he'll win the league next season , so it boils down to either keeping the faith or writing him off..