Reports of Ajax fans causing bother

I;m embarrassed by thsese decisions mate, but far from embarrassed being Dutch. Has nothing to do with this case. Police aren't going through my streets beating up everything that moves.

People need to get a grip talking about another country as a whole. You guys in Scotland having problems with harassment of the police vs Celtic supporters. Doesnt make me hate the country.

I got into a fight with a few huns in Hamburg a year back. I don't blame Scotland nor Germany.

Ive been feeling a bit uneasy lately reading some of the anti Netherlands comments on here tbh. I was there on the Dam, it could have been me or anyone else having a good time.

 

Agreed mate. Nobody is happy about the sentences, nobody feels a sense of justice for the lads but that is the thing, it is the polices fault and, in this case, the justice system.

However comments along the lines of * the Dutch and other derogatory remarks regarding the country as a whole are bang out of order. Direct your ire against targets that actually deserve it, Holland is a decent sized country, you can't condemn it all for two nights of madness in Amsterdam with scummy cops and a section of scummy fans.

 

Totally agree

 

It's not much better over here. Football fans are criminalized the world over.

 

And we're embarrassed no * end about and are against it and have groups like FAC to fight against it.

 

As said same the world over. Cops lie like * and are backed up by the courts...state sponsored thugs..Only this case was obvious.

 

I understand this was a 'quickie' hearing, but a court refusing to question witnesses, relying on shaky and inconsistent police reports before passing prison sentences and fines is utterly absurd. Then to add insult to injury, the under cover policemen- who were acting like thugs- are to be awarded damages!

Hopefully the appeal process allows justice to be done.

 

I'm not saying anyone is lying am i? But Twitter is 140 characters bound and nobody is typing fast enough to type it all what they are saying. Not to speak of tone, style and technicalities which go lost in typing and/or translating.

 

Oh! Buckets at game on Saturday...Now more than ever dig deep folks.

 

Why bother with a court system at all? They were thrown in jail on the word of the police.

 

Your right it is better but you have seen yourself how groups like the green brigade have been treated by the police in Glasgow. However we obviously have better laws governing how our police operate and make arrests.

 

As far as I'm aware there was not one arrest, despite the scenes at Parkhead, of any of the Ajax fans in Glasgow. The wonderful Scottish police and judicial system probably had more important things on their plate, like filming Celtic supporters singing songs, or maybe drafting new legislation to 'even things up'.

 

They all where translated and if you say them out loud your not even close to the time they used to speak. But this is a useless discussion because you got your mind set and emotions running through. Fine by me.

Hope the bhoys come back soon without being bothered too much and win the appeal in which they can use witnesses.

 

Using this as some kind of way to dilute the conduct of the corrupt and shameful Scottish police and legislature is absolute madness.