Racist anti-muslim protesters mistake black person for muslim in new york

good point here, but these people dont have genuine concerns, they want to fight, exhibit a: the black person mistaken for a muslim, and they are illiterate arseholes, exhibit b: the sign that says "mosque supports hamas"

muslims want tolerance, not acceptance, this is not tolerance

 

great post

 

So, there are more people who oppose it, and our Mayor is a moron who if it wasnt for the Billions, yes billions of Dollars he spent in hin last campaign he would be gone, please tell me why he has helped move this mosque so that it could start building within a few months, but in almost a decade almost nothing has been built at Ground Zero in large part thanks to him

 

This was a crowd of 100 inbred morons, and the sign is not misspelled they are strong concerns that some of the proceeds from the project will go back to investors who support Hamas

 

Close enough for one of the engines of the planes that hit the towers to fall through the roof of the building, I have said before I think that a islamic cultural center is a great idea but it doesnt have to be so close too ground zero. There is no reason why they can't just pick another site, they have been offered other buildings yet the remain adamant that it be built there

 

Threads like this always bring the idiots out

 

It is an Islamic Cultural center but the main part will be a mosque, try reading some of the local new york papers because they have a much better insight that the Guardian, not that I dislike the guardian it is one of my favorite papers.

 

was just the first thing that came up about it when i searched in google.and i think the thread was made because of the idiots in the clip making the guy out to be muslim because he was black.do you not think these clowns make your country look bad?

 

The first few floors will be a community center open to everyone no one has a problem with that, it is the upper floors where there will be prayer rooms and study areas and which will be offlimts to non-Muslims, the Imam in charge of the project has himself said it will be an islamic community center with a mosque, and the Church next to rockefeller center is St. Patricks Cathedral and was their before Nelson Rockefeller was even born

 

But even in much further out places like Tennesee, Wisconsin and even the apparently super liberal and open minded California there have been protests and people going batshit insane over mosques, the intolerance is much more widespread, the fact that it's near ground zero is just giving people an excuse this time.

It doesn't matter what site they pick, some people still aren't going to like it, because they're stupid and afraid the towelheaded muslim boogeyman is going to get them.

 

You really show your ignorance with that comment, I have known many Native Americans, My Mother grew up on the Navajo reservation, I also happen to know someone who is a member of the Lenape tribe that you so readily seem to identify with and they all love this country. I served with Native Americans in the Army who fought and in the case of 1 of my friends, died for the United States. So please don't try to compare this to a situation of which you have little understanding, while you may think you are standing up for the Lenape you are only insulting them.

 

lol, tossers

 

Yes I do and I am ashamed that they live in the same city as me

here is an interesting read 'Ground Zero' imam on Mideast tour to make Islam 'Americanized' - NYPOST.com

 

maybe it could be good....if what that guy says is true.better to turn them against terrorism than let them sit on the fence and be swung in the opposite direction.that is what is needed imo.get to them before others do

 

I'm pointing out the rampant stupidity of this "Guilty by association" attitude - that is, this community centre is no more a dig at 9/11 than the State of Liberty is a dig at the extermination of Native Americans. Your average Muslim New Yorker should no more be dumped on over 9/11 than a white guy should over crimes committed by maniacs in their name in the past.

So, really, I don't see what point you think you're making here.


I reiterate, this all boils down to "No Muslims near Ground Zero". It's pathetic, and the *-stirring bigots perpertrating it ought to be treated like the twisted weirdos they are.

 

It's illegal to bring a bible or crucifix into Saudi Arabia never mind practice your faith, Coptics are persecuted daily in Egypt, churches can't be built in Jordan, Christians in Pakistan have to practice in secret, churches are firebombed in Malaysia.......

My objection is nothing to do with denying them their right to practice their religion, in 2001 there were 17 mosques in Manhattan and it's probably higher now, why this particular site? Imam Rauf has himself said it's not about serving a Muslim population in the area after stating that most of those who come to hear his sermons travel from the tri-state area but that it's about the location:

Again my issue isn't with the building of the mosque (unless it's supported by extremists) but why that particular location when other less sensitive locations have been offered.

My point is that many Muslims demand religious freedom yet will deny that same freedom to others. I don't have a problem with mosques in Manhattan, I do however have doubts over the reason for this particular development. It's not just a community centre, it's a community centre with a mosque.

Nothing of the sort, some people opposed to the mosque are undoubtedly racist however not all. It is entirely understandable that some of those who lost loved ones in the name of Islam would have a problem with a project who's aim is to promote Islam. Peoples feelings run deep and to many New Yorkers that ground is sacred and see the building of a mosque so close as a form of triumph.

Again I didn't say any such thing, I stated I'd like to know where the finance was coming from, a valid question for those with concerns, especially seen as it's been reported that Imam Rauf will get financing from Islamic countries:

With the Americans currently paying for him doing a middle east tour maybe he's making those contacts at the American tax payers expense, thus the financing of the project is a valid issue that should be discussed.

There's nothing bigoted in my objection to this development, I've raised valid questions that need to be answered, this isn't just about religious freedom, Muslims already have the freedom to pray in Manhattan it's about finding out exactly what the motives behind this project are.

 

This has been brought up and I think it is the single most asinine argument in a heap of asinine arguments. We should not hold ourselves to the moral standard of the people who we degrade as morally inferior. And you're making that stuff up about Jordan. The King himself has commissioned Armenian churches.

"Less sensitive locations?" It's two blocks away and not within view of Ground Zero.

Again, asinine. These are not Saudis or Pakistanis. These are Americans.

And there are also many family members who are embarrassed on the uproar. It's a slippery slope. Is three blocks hallowed ground? Four blocks? Five blocks? Do you even know the geography of the area?

The financing is coming from a guy who owns 10% of News Corp., which owns Fox News. But when Fox News is lambasting this guy they don't show his name or picture. Fear mongering at its worst.

And if it's found out that he's getting money from Iran it should be stopped. But there's no reasonable information that points that way, the only "sketchy" source is the aforementioned Al-Waleed bin Talal. The reason his identity is so secret is because the conservative outlets whipping up this storm (virtually all of them owned by News Corp), don't want you to find out that this "evil evil man" is a friend of Rupert Murdoch and their boss.

I've not found one valid question.

 

watching and listening to the veeja more closely "you voted for OBAMA"

fs...i lold

 

And they're all about as far away from lower Manhattan as you can get. So, really ... so what?

Why not that location? Anyone who feels that a gathering of Muslims in the lower Manhattan area is some kind of offence shouldn't be given the time of day. Again, people are hearing the terms "9/11" and "Mosque" and letting that racist undertone that's been scared into believing that any brown man is trying to kill them, raise to the surface.

Again with the insane guilt-by-association logic. "A Muslim caused 9/11, therefore Muslims near Ground Zero = TERRORIST!!". If it was "Catholic community centre = DRUNK PEADOPHILES!" or "Jewish community centre = USURY!" these people would be laughed all the way to jail. But because it involves 9/11 and those scary brown people who Sarah Palin says are evil, people start acting like we should be taking this lunacy seriously.

Those people are racist.

Because as we all know, all Muslims and their governments are best assumed to be involved in the plot to destroy freedom unless proven otherwise.


This furore over an Islamic community centre only exists because of the flawed, logic-depraved, herd-mentallity and outright dishonest rhetoric spouted by people looking to spread fear and bigotry for their own gain. To those people I say: "Go away. You hate freedom."

 

Having Muslims at ground zero is not the reasons most people are angry at this, thos morons in the video are a very small minority, The Man who owns the group that bought the building and is building the mosque was a waiter 2 years ago until he started his company and his income is only $300,000 a year yet he was able to pay 5 million for the building where the mosque is going to be and another building not to far away for almost 50 million. He paid for the building where the mosque in cash and is own friends have said that he can't be trusted.