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Protest against the Board?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Ciaran_67, Jul 30, 2014.

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  1. The Celtic Way

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    my season ticket is bought and paid for, and that there is the problem too many people like myself are buying in blind faith. im really thinking of opting out the home ticket scheme if we make it to the europa league,
     
  2. moravcik1888

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    In a Radio interview after the match Ronny said there is money available and he will be bringing in players. We will have to see if that means a couple of unknown duds for around £1.5 million each or if he is actually going to be given money to go out and buy 3 or 4 quality players....because we * need it.
     
  3. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    I hope the 'duds' he buys for £1.5 m are as good as the following cheap 'unknown' buys

    Henrik Larsson - bought for £650,000
    Lubo Moravcik - bought for £300,000

    So for under £1 million 2 of the best players ever to wear a Celtic strip were bought.
    It can happen and i hope the players that Delia buys are at least as half as good.
     
  4. Jungo

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    Would never pay the prices they are asking for to watch players who aren't that much better than myself
     
  5. Dáibhí

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    It's clear that a fair amount of the current squad aren't up to scratch for the type of game Deila wants to play, so some of them will be shifted on no doubt.

    In the past we've spent somewhere in the region of what? £5 million to £7 million in total? That's probably what he'll have again this season.

    It'll be interesting to see who ends up going.
     
  6. Random Review

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    Is that a net spend of £5 million, Daíbhí? The way I see it Lawwell said we budget for the Europa League and don t rely in the CL money, so if we reach the group stages, he should be true to his word and every single penny we get for Forster, Van Dijk and anyone else who goes should be given to Ronny to build his team. Ought to get £12 million for Forster and Van Dijk alone.
     
  7. Dáibhí

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    Aye, he'll get somewhere in that region total I'd imagine, same as Lennon had the past few years, although it could be more depending on how many players are shipped out.

    It looks like we're due a rebuild, and this season will be the infamous transitional one!
     
  8. Random Review

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    £650k in 1996 and £300k are not the same as those amounts today. Even just with ordinary inflation, those amounts are nearly double today. In fact, though, football transfers have gone up far more quickly than prices in the economy as a whole. Maybe ILTC could tell us how much those figures would be in today's market with today's bloated transfer prices?

    Still absolute bargains, though.
     
  9. angusceltic67

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    I agree with you there D,...RD needs time and support from the supporters, but that also includes financial support from the board.

    I just hope to * we can get some kind of decent run in the Europa, otherwise there will be no money for RD to make changes and additions to the squad he wants.
     
  10. bkk bhoy

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    yes, the board played absolute * last night, could not string two passes together, failed to create chances and were to blame for both goals..

    get * real......... i am no fan of a corporate minded board but the blame lies squarely with the players on the park. absolute MINCE over both games though i would exempt mcGreggor as he is young and lacks experience... he looked like he was trying .

    too many * signings recently ...... we want quality not quantity, works in progress etc. JUST BUY *' PLAYERS.... no rocket science level of intelligence needed to see what the problem is
     
  11. Random Review

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    Saw it coming, Daíbhí. I saw a good chance we'd fail to qualify for the CL group stages coming. I knew it would take tome for Ronny to implement his ideas, you only have to look at his record with Stromgodset.

    What I didn't see coming was that utter humiliation last night and last week. I'm not calling for Lawwell to go, Daíbhí, you know I'm not with that; but in hindsight the board * up by not backing him so far. Of course, hindsight is 20/20 and I myself was arguing only a few weeks ago that I'd be happy this window if we bought no one but kept Forster and Van Dijk, which now makes me look stupid; but the board are paid a lot of money to be much better than me in understanding what the club needs and doing it and (although they generally do a good job IMO) this time they really * up,
     
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  12. Dáibhí

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    Of course it includes financial support from the board, but I think I'd rather wait a little bit longer than him being in the job for a month before I start losing the rag over no new signings.

    He needs time to evaluate the current squad, and going by his recent comments he's now coming to the end of that time and has started working on bringing players in.

    If we reach the end of the transfer window and we've still signed no one then I'll be as irate as everyone else, but we can't blame the board for not signing anyone when the manager himself hasn't even identified who he wants or which positions he needs filled!

    Of course there will.

    Because we don't go mental and spend all the Champions League money when we earn it and blow everything we bring in from player sales all in one go we'll be able to spend the same £5 million to £7 million in a season with no European football as we do in a season with Champions League football.

    Good, solid business sense has ensured that to be the case.

    Now, that would undoubtedly change if we were to miss out on the Champions League for a number of seasons in a row, but we can deal with that situation if it ever arises!
     
  13. moravcik1888

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    ach come on we all know about Lubo and Henrik but you're going back a fair few years now and there are always exceptions to the rule. If Ronny can pinpoint players that don't happen to cost much and he believes are quality players then fine, as long as the reason he is going for them is not because they are cheap but because he honestly believes they are quality players.
     
  14. Student12

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    I seen this on another site, did the board actually say this?

    Neil will have substantial funds to spend in the summer,’ said Lawwell.

    ‘We’re in arguably the best financial state we’ve ever been in but it makes no sense to keep the money in the bank. We want to invest in the club by investing in good footballers that create value for the club.

    ‘Celtic can buy a £6-8m player if the value is there.

    ‘We would not buy a 29-year-old at £8m on a four-year contract at £40,000 a week because that is dead money. But if there’s value in signing an £8m player we will look at it.’
     
  15. richardm

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    The guy he got from Cardiff was not a good start in my book, if we are just going to raid the Norwegian League then I would bet a lot of money we are heading for long term decline.

    I hope our transfer ambitions will be higher than that but we needed players in pre CL not after we have been pumped out of it.

    Why Lennon left and why certain "big" names didn't pursue any interest in managing us is already starting to become crystal to these eyes and once again it's us the fans who are being short changed.

    Either give Ronny proper money for decent players or come clean Lawell
     
  16. Dáibhí

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    Again, how can they back him financially when he isn't sure which players he wants to bring in or which positions will be needing filled?

    Deila himself said he wanted to evaluate the squad, see who could and who couldn't play in his system, and then move forward from there.

    He's been here two months, and has just hinted that he's now moved from the evaluation process into the identifying and signing of new players to bolster the squad.

    Would you rather the board had blown some of the budget just buying anyone in order to say "hey, we're spending money!"? Or would you rather they wait on Deila doing his due diligence and then alow him to identify which positions need filled and which type of players he needs before spending?

    I know which option I'd prefer.
     
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    To be honest I thought McGregor was the one player on our side who played well and showed some decent skill at times.
     
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    I've always liked the concept of turning your back on the game for a period like Italians do, I think that is the best way of making a statement if you are one of these folk who can never bring it in themselves to stay away.

    Send out a clear message the natives are unhappy and it saves the club turning to cliches like "a boycott effects the team performance" and such pish
     
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    Yeah, you might be right, mate. I'm too angry to think straight at the moment. I should probably wait and calm down before making up my mind. Something has to be learned from last night, though. If that means putting a bonus clause in every new Celtic manager's contract to so that he gets £500k if he gives at least 3 month's notice before quitting, then so be it.
     
  20. Dáibhí

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    Yeah, I don't think you're the only one who's angry and not thinking straight.

    The amount of people who are complaining about a board not financially backing a manager who up until recently probably had no idea who he wanted to sign or even which positions would need filled this season is ridiculous.

    He's been here for two months, and has only just finished properly evaluating his current squad. All of these players that we have watched week in & week out are new to him. He probably knew very little about them.

    Reaching the point where he knows who will fit into his style of play and who won't takes time. He has made it clear that he has reached the point where he's ready to start looking at who to sign, so from this point forward is where we judge the board in my opinion.