Peter Lawwell

My problem is how long he has been in his role and his remuneration, we are told we can’t pay EPL wages that is unless you are Peter Lawwell. There is also the resolution 12 question which he has been caught lying about.

 

What resolution 12 question ?? Seriously I dont know nowt about this...update....googled and now know situation..............

 

The same folk who constantly moan about PL would have been the same ones who had it in for Fergus, we know how that's panned out, it's easier finding snow in July than finding someone admit to booing him that day.

 

I well remember that day, shameful as it was.

 

There's certainly more that booed Fergus than let on. I remember asking my Granda why people were booing (I was 9) and I remember him telling me they were dafties, but there were thousands who did.

I'd say the dynamics are completely different now. In 1998 the narrative was fundamentally controlled by mainstream media, with readerships & viewerships that blew Celtic fanzines like Not the View out of the water. The result was those controlling the vast majority of information were a compliant anti-Celtic media. It can't be overstated the influence they had on opinion.

With the emergence of the internet comes new media, informative factual blogs and the ability to fact-check MSM garbage that would've previously been accepted as gospel.

Peter Lawwell is no Fergus McCann, it's not even close. For a start the bunnet fronted up his own money and took a capital risk when no-one else was willing to.

CEOs are ten-a-penny, if there was no Lawwell there would be another who could do the job (open for debate if they could do it better) If there was no McCann then there would be no Celtic.

Some may try point to their seemingly similar outlooks to running a football club eg. refusing to secede to greedy agents demands, but for me it's a false equivalency.

The bunnet was keeping tight reign on a club that was hours from closure; Lawwell in most circumstances obstinately refuses to spend more in accordance with our revenue increases unless it's for shareholder dividends or grossly above inflation wage rises for board members.

 

Not Celtic chat.

 

Aye there is more info available now due to the internet, hopefully the fact checking will become popular though, and aye the anti Celtic perspective may have been reduced greatly, due to people getting info from the internet now. However sadly there is still one shitload of utter drivel spouted about PL and his priorities including remuneration levels and increases payable. I would start with A/ Check the boards salaries B/ Check and see how much is paid in dividends, its not the millions upon millions some seem to think.
The likes of NTV pretty much agreed with the msm regarding Fergus as well, so I don't get yer point on that either.

You will need to tell me the board members who have had this "grossly above inflation wage rises" as I've looked at the figures for 2016, 2017 and 2018 and the salary payments* are, basically, static so no idea were you got that * from but aye, as you say, fact checking

(*I've excluded pension and benefits in kind and bonus as these are obviously not salary payments and arent payable to them all either anyway).


2018
Alison 25k
Bankier 80k
Pete 1.150million
DD 25k
McKay 147k
Brown 30k
Livingston 0k
Wilson 25k

2017
Allison 25k
Bankier 50k
DD 25k
Pete 1.150 million
Livingston 30k
McKay 140k
Riley 0k
Brown 14k
Wilson 25k

2016
Allison 25k
Bankier 50k
DD 25k
Livingston 30k
McKay 140k
Riley 371k
Brown 0k
Wilson 25k

 

Why haven't you included Lawwell's 2016 figure?

It wouldn't be because it shows his basic salary increased by 100%...would it?

As you can see by your own figures, Bankiers salary rose 60% between 2017 to 2018.

Happy to help.

 

Problem you have then is Pete doesn't set his own salary (I simply missed the 2016 figure) so while it did increase that will have been DD/Board not Pete and the same applies for Bankier, yet you are spouting off that its Pete who does all this for board members ...

As you say happy to help

 

Your own quote:

"You will need to tell me the board members who have had this "grossly above inflation wage rises" as I've looked at the figures for 2016, 2017 and 2018 and the salary payments* are, basically, static"

100% increase and 60% increase are not "basically static" regardless of who agrees them.

As before, happy to help.

 

Sean I agree with all of that except for your last sentence.

Latest accounts show our expenditure is higher than our revenue so I would say Lawell is right to be a bit wary, even although he sanctioned a fair few new signings over the summer.

 

“The Board does not consider it to be in the best interests of the Company to take the steps proposed by the resolution. The Board recommends that you vote against this resolution”


It's time they explained why this is their stance given the concrete evidence that shareholders of the PLC was denied a possible £12million+ from qualification to the 2011/12 Champions League.

My vote is FOR the resolution, make sure that you do too.

 

awe well we're a big club after all and he generates the cash

 

His early failure in the transfer market the last 2 summer has cost the club £37m cash!

 

Its funny but not manny moaning we also out spend spl clubs on players.....PL is a bit of a * and he has made mistakes.....but right now there can be few complaints about our team its players and where we are as a club.
Sack him if you like but the next guy into the job will just do as PL has been doing....because PL is not top of the ladder and does not set the rules or guideline on how we maintain our bank balance.....you want change then you need to aim at the top.......DD.

 

true

 

My only real issue with him is, for at least a decade, he's basically been CEO, chairman and de factor DOF at the club. Not to mention being the only club figure publically speaking all the time. The rest of the board and Desmond sit back in some mansions doing and saying literally * all.

He's a very good money man, but should be in charge only of counting pennies and boosting profits. Football men for the football jobs.

 

* threads like this give me a headache.

 

You’ve only got to look at them, and a £11m loss over the past 12 months to realise what PL does well.

He may be a *, but he’s our *!

And name a decent CEO who isn’t?