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Peter Lawwell

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by eddiebhoy0109, Jan 13, 2015.

Discuss Peter Lawwell in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. mayo

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    I think the dislike speaks volumes personally…

    Lawwell when he first came was excellent. We needed to cut down the budget and he did so while still being a good side.

    Even Lennons first stint I felt we were run very well. Even though he blew the chance of killing the Huns a few years earlier and letting them win 3 on the bounce.

    Lawwell is someone who is stuck in his ways and not keeping up to date with the times. We needed a fresh voice years now.

    He’s someone who’d actually do a great job for the Huns. I don’t think he’s good when we’re ahead and have the power to go to the next level.

    Meh as for the sales we’re not doing anything majorly different from other teams in a similar position to our own. Take Brugge for example who we play midweek. I mean out of the high profile sales is there anyone you felt we won a watch selling them for such a sum?

    We’re signing players for more money now but we’re also selling them for way more. Football inflation has been mental over the last ten years. In Rodgers time here we’ve sold 2 players for 25m and got into the CL automatically each year. When I take that into consideration I don’t think you can say he’s been backed massively signing the above players.

    I think our ideas of where Celtic should be are just different. Your picture of Ronnie Delia for example. A good man but I think we should be aiming with managers with a higher profile. You probably felt he done a great job.

    I suppose that’s one of the reasons we love football. People have different beliefs and ideas on things.
     
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  2. The_Bhoy

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    My picture is Ronny deila cos he’s a funny guy and it’s a bit of a joke! Not cos he’s anything other than that. But as you say people have different ideas on things….even as simple as why a picture is so :86:

    rest I kinda agree with you on as you’re starting to at least mention the success lawell has seen under his tenure.

    Brugge play in a much better league than ours so I’d say we’ve done well to sell the players we have for the fees. It’s not just the sales though it’s the purchases, apart from maybe 2-3 windows most players have developed well we’ve bought.

    you’re correct on football inflation being mad. But it’s also a testament to the board we’ve managed to stay afloat unlike those across the city! They’re a perfect example of what can happen if you don’t live within your means.

    you’re right about the position of strength stuff and not progressing after that. Hopefully this season will change that in Europe mate
     
  3. mayo

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    I’ll leave you with this. In the last 10 years there’s 3 seasons I’ve really liked what I’ve saw on and off the park.(some seasons liked what I have saw on just not off the park btw)

    1. Was the invincible year. Majorly down to Rodgers imo. Shout out to DD if you believe the story at Hampden from the semi. Rodgers should never done what he done but things like the McGinn situation, playing Bitton at CB during crucial CL qualifying campaigns did not help matters. It was clear Lawwell was driving him mad.

    2. Angels first year. We were in a real hole but made some fantastic signings, played unbelievable football and won a league against a solid Hun team imo. That season Lawwell * off for the year.

    3. This year. Recruitment been much better, seeing progress in Europe. Mark Lawwell * off.

    You’re wasting your time trying to convince me the Lawwells shouldn’t get a hard time.
    Like I’ve said in previous posts it’s time for a new voice. That new voice should have been years ago imo. After Ronnie. It was clear imo he’s not the man to take us forward when we’re in a position of strength. Had we off * the league last year which at one point it looked very possible it would have turned very ugly for him.
     
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  4. The_Bhoy

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    In the last 10 years there’s 1 season I haven’t liked, take the good with the bad and the success is even sweeter. Although we all want it we can’t win every single game we play.
    Not trying to convince you the lawells shouldn’t get a hard time…my original question was have we experienced some of the most success ever under Peter lawell. The answer was yes.

    to me personally that shows some level of unnecessary hate. But you are your own person and can hate as you please bud :shamrock: as long as we keeping winning those doubles, trebles and titles I’m happy
     
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    That's Christmas sorted then thanks to Big Pete. Hopefully not sold out yet!
     
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  6. mayo

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    Genuinely think this could be a PL burner account :56:

    Europe is a much better barometer to judge Petesy rather then domestically. He’s competed with a Huns board who couldn’t run a * up in a brewery.

    Our ambition should be a lot higher than just being the best in Scotland in recent years. Please * this year is the start of being back to where we belong.
     
  7. Pogues

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    Mate, it's been 50 years since we seriously competed in Europe on a regular basis. If that's what you mean by being back to where we belong then fair enough.
     
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  8. mayo

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    Qualifying for CL and not just making up the numbers. Getting a few points on the board.
     
  9. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    Peter Lawwell was convinced Paul Le Guen was destined to fail at Rangers after receiving insight from a French-based Celtic FAN, it has been claimed


    Lawwell, now chairman at Parkhead, was appointed chief executive of the Hoops three years prior to their rivals hiring Le Guen in 2006. The Frenchman was seen as a major coup at the time after winning a hat-trick of successive French Ligue 1 titles with Lyon. But he had a disastrously short spell at the Light Blues helm with just 31 games and seven months before the axe fell and the late Walter Smith brought in to clean up the mess left behind by Alex McLeish’s successor


    And now veteran broadcaster Graham Spiers has shared a conversation he had with Lawwell at the time on his Press Box podcast. He said: “I’ll never forget a conversation I had back then with Peter Lawwell, not long in the door as Celtic CEO, who had a vivid story to tell me and, as it turned out, a prophetic one, about Paul Le Guen. It was revealing. Peter Lawwell told me how anxious Celtic felt about Rangers landing Paul Le Guen. Lawwell believed this was the real deal - a top European coach and maybe indeed the next Arsene Wenger.



    Peter explained to me how it was discussed at Celtic boardroom level and how they would have to stiffen their resolve to face this new challenge at Rangers under Le Guen. But he said the anxiety was suddenly somehow allayed by a letter he received from a Celtic fan who lived and worked in Lyon and who had closely watched Le Guen and Lyon's success.


    And this Celtic supporter told Peter Lawwell ‘you’ve got nothing to worry about, I don’t think Le Guen and Rangers will work. It’s the wrong model. At Lyon Le Guen was the head coach, he signed no-one and was merely given the players to work with. He had nothing to do with transfer market activity at all.

    This private information was interesting to me on three counts. First it was true a guy called Bernard Lacombe, the great French striker of the 1970s, had been given the role of director of football and credited with so much of Lyon’s success during that Le Guen period, three league titles


    Secondly, because as it transpired Le Guen took on the role of signing players. Rangers had next to no scouting department. Le Guen made such a mess of buying in players - I give you an untried Swedish centre back Karl Svensson. And, thirdly, because as Peter Lawwell told me, this message he received from France suddenly made Celtic look at Le Guen differently. The whole Scottish press were excited and upbeat, and I was right in there myself, but Celtic began to think ‘okay, let’s see how this unfolds’. And it did unfold - or unravel!”
     
  10. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Was wondering what the random nature of a 19 year old "story" being brought to attention in January 2025

    Then I saw this bit

    And suddenly remembered Peter Lawwell is the head dude at Celtic again, I wonder what line he's hoping to trott out about not letting managers have free reign on signings.
    Not like we are half way through the winter window and seen next to zero movements in.

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  11. mayo

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    Bang on the money.
     
  12. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    :56:

    I didn't take that at all from that article..

    Surely, the comparison is being made about Clement.. much more comparable situations.

    We'll add this window and broke our transfer record in the summer. And our summer business is looking good too.. Schmeichel, Trusty, Valle, Bernardo, McCowan, Engels with doubts only really over Idah..

    I'm not a massive fan of Lawwell but for me some are totally blinkered no matter what we do as a Club..
     
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  13. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'll happily admit, I went looking for that bit :56:

    CAnt stand the man being at our club.
    No doubt, great with finances and I'm 100% sure a massive Celtic fan and no doubt likely a decent lad.

    But I hate how he operates out club and think we will forever be better off without him running things.

    Stories only come out with his name attached when it's to gain something/send a message about something.

    This "news" isn't coming out randomly. It's for a reason.
    He's not under much pressure just now, so he's not needing to poke fun and win Celtic Da points as such.
    So I'm inclined to think he's trying to subtly tell the fans something.



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  14. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Tapatalk limits characters so here is part two...

    I do agree our summer window has been good and pretty much all signings have performed and I'd not call any a flop.
    But we need to see that continue, at a bare minimum.
    One good window in however many he's presided over, doesn't change my opinion on how he runs things.
    Been stung enough to expect us to tighten the purse strings here, get KT on a precontract and claim it's a massive financial deal, when reality is it's a free signing and would be on 30-35k.
    Need to keep pushing the boat out and take the next half step up in Europe again.
    It's a good start, let's continue it.

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    It obviously worked out but the fact they were worried about him and needing to strengthen our resolve (perhaps looking at improving the squad).

    Then after a letter form some random gadgy in France, Lawell decided to scrap that idea and see how it pans out. Absolutely screams terrified of spending money. It's a very tin pot view if you ask me. Praying some random is right.
     
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  16. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Would need to hear the whole podcast for a bit of context from Speirs, that's only an extract..

    But, to suggest PL is behind Spiers, controlling what he says in order to dilute our expectations in this current transfer window.. :56:
     
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    Had a listen, as usual he waxes lyrical.. articulate as ever, but he absolutely loves the sound of his own voice.. :56:

    Turns out nothing to do with Celtic or Lawwell really, or even Clement.. :56:

    The PL part, difficult to know how much credence we gave to the fan opinion, who was based in Lyon.. It may have formed part of our due diligence.
     
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    Some right weirdos in our support man. Demented.