Peter Lawwell - Is It Time For him To Go?

Hey Peter what do you think of this thread ?

 

http://athousandflowers.net/2013/12/16/weekly-wanker-024-peter-lawwell/


Worth pointing out that in order to achieve such financial success PL has refused to pay a living wage to employees and outsourced work to private firms who treat their workers like *.

So much for Celtic maintaining the dinner tables with him in charge! IMO that is just as bad as what he is doing to the fans.

 

His comments about Rangers were genius, takes the focus away from stuff he'd rather not be focused on. He's a * but he's a clever *.

 

Look, the truth is that "maintaining the dinner table" along with preserving our charitable status and history comes 2nd on the list to providing shareholders with their profits on Lawwell's job description.

We can of course question the clubs morals today, but Lawwell is simply doing his job, and anyone who replaced him would be doing the exact same.

 

You do know these employees aren't charity cases so I wouldn't mind people to stop talking like its a charitable cause.

Celtic as a club do plenty of charity work so this argument is total propaganda.

 

No, it's not. It's the right thing to do.

 

It would be foolish to get rid what's that old saying better the devil you know ?

 

Just because these people are in a job doesn't mean they aren't in poverty.

The reason the club was set up was to provide food for the hungry in the East End of Glasgow so it should be a point of concern that people who are now employed by the club are struggling to pay the bills, and maybe even part of the growing number of people who are forced to visit food banks to feed themselves.

 

that was 20th century Celtic, 21st century Celtic is more about lining Lawwell and every other directors pockets

 

I know that mate I was just pointing out to goodybhoy that, when people have to make a choice between feeding their family or paying the bills, then it is a charitable cause.

 

Your assuming they are living in poverty. which if I was a worker, i wouldn't be too chuffed reading about how I'm a charity case. I believe food banks and other charities are in place for people in poverty and our fans are already helping out with this. Its just your assumption that these employees are in poverty. Regardless, as a club stuck in a * league that only pays out 1.5 million to the winner and has to sell players to survive without CL football, we can't be going out n spending an extra half million a year on this (which is what I heard it comes to) not that much compared to what we made this year but if you think about debts we've paid etc. Were not exactly RICH. Don't see man u etc doing it

Can you name some other companies with the same overall turnover as celtic that are involved in this living wage deal?

 

I cannot see what the living wage debate has to do with Lawwell going, simply because I cannot see a replacement offering a differing opinion on the subject, truth be told. These guys are all the same, for right or for wrong.

 

What do people expect? Pay every employee from the cleaning lady to the person that puts the ketchup on the burgers 7-8 quid an hour?

 

I Don't really care what other companies do. The workers aren't paid a living wage meaning they don't earn enough to live above the breadline. That's a disgrace and yes that does mean they are in poverty and no that isn't my assumption.

You say that fans are already helping out with foodbanks but don't you see that if Celtic paid a living wage the pressures on charities would be reduced in the area? The board are taking advantage of these people knowing full well that they can fall back out charitable fans and foodbanks for support. Peter Lawwell and celtic are making money, they can afford to pay a living wage.

I'm not saying we should suddenly turn ourselves into a non-profit company or anything like that but paying a living wage can make the difference between being referred to a foodbank or being able to pay for the weekly shop.

 

I'm not assuming anything mate it's all been reported by the government's social mobility commission.

I appreciate that you live in the USA so probably aren't aware of any of this.

There are hundred's of companies that are paying the living wage, although currently no football teams do. Part of the push to encourage is that it falls within the clubs historical mantra and that it could then encourage other teams to follow suit.

 

Approx 400 companies in the UK paying the living wage - it's spreading gradually. However, it would simply be better if politicians like Swinney who "fully support" the campaign actually made it a manditory minimum for companies. Simply saying they pay those under their "direct control" said amount is not them doing enough as far as I am concerned.

Until that changes, the overwhelming majority of companies will simply do what they are legally obliged to; especially in an economic climate that remains harsh.

 

I know this kind of discussion belongs in the relevant thread in HP&R, but the truth is that the Scottish Government would find it virtually impossible to impose the living wage as mandatory for private companies, especially when the current minimum wage law is in effect.

What they could do is make it a pre-requisite for any company tendering for public sector contracts. There are no plans for such a move as far as i know at present.

 

Exactly what I was thinking mate. Why is this celtics problem when the government don't pay enough where people can live confortable lives?

The reality is, we are not rich. We have money right now but what if we don't get into the CL next season .. or the season after that, or the one after that? If we continue to lose key players that run down their contracts, were gonna have more problems.

We have money FOR NOW but what if we did sign up for this living wage. Were gonna be stuck on paying those prices for the forseeable future even if our club hits some rough times finacially.