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Peter Lawwell - Is It Time For him To Go?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Dáibhí, Dec 12, 2013.

Discuss Peter Lawwell - Is It Time For him To Go? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. pod

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    To get the current incumbents to back our support. Surely not too much to ask.
     
  2. Dáibhí

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    Look, it's really quite simple.

    Lawwell and the celtic board are not going to stand by and allow anything that can bring the club into disrepute.

    I'm sure that they're more than happy to "let the people sing" so long as it's not breaking the rules of the land or those put forward by the Governing body.

    The banners primarily simply won't be stood for. what do you really expect them to do? Just accept it in silence and keep paying fines until our fans are eventually banned from European games?
     
  3. TimMalloyBhoy

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    Then I would say he has some * cheek to say that after all the grief he has caused Celtic fans.

    The ''new guy'' would maybe put a of defence towards UEFA regarding the innocence of the banner and put together a case as to how the banner was not illicit and indeed football related as it was in protest of the Scottish Government's Offensive Behaviour at Football Act.
     
  4. wulliebad

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    Im not saying the GB is to blame for this or that but they are unlucky enough to have attracted some fans to their area (murderwell) that clearly don't give a * and just want a good time.
    But its simple for celtic to move them around rather than to try and stop those unwanted fans seeking them out.
    Not sure if its going to make any difference to away games to be honest.
    As distasteful as it may be the GB may have to start reporting those that join their ranks for the sake of causing trouble.
    That would cure some of the problems but its not something i would want to have to do.
     
  5. Jinky.

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    I expect them to stop colluding with the police in the harassment and criminalisation of our fans.

    Serious question here mate, what do you expect the GB to do? Keep getting knocks on their doors in the early hours, followed around, treated worse than rapists and murderers?
     
  6. Dáibhí

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    Okay, that has absolutely nothing to do with the post you just quoted :97:
     
  7. Jinky.

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    I quoted the wrong one, my point is there wouldn't be a need for the banners if the club cared about fan welfare and the harassment going on. Surely they need to do something to highlight it?
     
  8. Markybhoy

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    I think it would be fair to say the kind of people who are up in arms about the banner issue/treatment of the GB are more likely to be vocal and kick up a fuss than the people who support what Peter Lawwell is doing.

    That is the most likely explanation as to why it seems as though most of this forum wants rid of Lawwell while, at the same time, the poll result shows this not to be the case.
     
  9. McChiellini..

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    Maybe they should get a back bone and let Uefa or the sfa or whoever next is complaining about us what some of the banners and songs are about instead of sitting back and taking whatever they decide we should get..

    To take it away for a second it really makes me sick that we keep making headlines when there are far worse right wing banners in the east,monkey chants,flares displays that make a whole end look like it's about to burn down and collapse..
    It's ridiculous..

    Did you think it was ok to split paying fans up on barcelona? Did they have nasty political banners? Did you find it ok for police to harass fans at a peaceful demo? Did you find it ok for a whole section at celtic park to be closed over what a few did at an away game?
    There's more..
     
  10. TimMalloyBhoy

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    No, defend the banner as being football related like I said, it was in protest of the Governments Offensive behaviour at football act. So, that is what I expect them to do. Not immediately condemn your own fans.
     
  11. CelticKurd

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    If Lawell wouldn´t be that successsful on the financial side I bet 90% would be against him.
     
  12. Dáibhí

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    Quick question for yourself or anyone else who may know. How many protests or banner displays have happened at the Government building in Edinburgh?
     
  13. TimMalloyBhoy

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    How is that relevant to this conversation? If there was numerous protests a day outside Holyrood would that make the banner any less illicit? And not in protest of the offensive behaviour at football act?
     
  14. Tim-Time 1888 Always look on the bright side of Life Gold Member

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    I have actually said about raising this with our MSP's (i have) however I got some catty and smug answers :31:.
    So it has made me believe its easier to moan on here than actually do something.

    Oh the answer is 0
     
  15. TimMalloyBhoy

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    We are discussing the banner being illicit or not. What has the number of protests got to do with anything, and they have protested in Glasgow on more than one occasion and where harassed, arrested for doing nothing and followed home. So I don't blame people for not wanting to protest any more. So where better to protest the act than on the worlds premier football stage to raise awareness among other clubs in football to the cause?
     
  16. Markybhoy

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    Interesting point.

    There are certainly a large number of Celtic fans who, before the Group Stage began, were of the opinion that players like Commons and Stokes were good enough to do the business for us in the Champions League. It's easy for them with the benefit of hindsight to sit here now and moan about the fact we didn't sign a goalscorer to help us out in Europe.

    On the other hand it was obvious to me that players like those already mentioned were never going to cut it at that level and Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell should have seen it too. That's what they're paid for and why they're in the positions they're in. Going into the Champions League group stage with Anthony Stokes as your main striker is suicide, you're not even giving yourself a chance to succeed. I pin a lot of the blame for that on Peter Lawwell. I don't believe for a second that Neil Lennon would have wanted to go into a Champions League campaign with Stokes as his main striker, I think he knew only too well how badly we needed a replacement for Gary Hooper but the board would not go the extra mile to get him that replacement. The board sold the fans short, not for the first time and probably not for the last.
     
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    There has been some protest in Edinburgh. On the day the bill was being passed Celtic fans were removed from the public gallery for wearing shirts against the bill. Scottish democracy.

    We've also been writing emails to MSP's but apparently a lot of peoples details were handed over to the Police.
     
  18. Dáibhí

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    You must know that it's all too easy to claim the banner as being political, surely?

    The bottom line is, the banner was breaking the rules. We've paid the price for that, and as such the club are taking action against those responsible.
     
  19. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Who was that MSP that started sending emails back telling people to stop emailing about it as some of her constituents might have genuine issues that needed addressing ?
     
  20. AwesomeCaz

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    My view on him is the same as Lennon - regardless of what you think of him currently he's the best, indeed only, man for the job.

    Until and unless you can do a better job then shut up and get on with it frankly.