Paulo Bernardo

Strikes me as an all rounder really, O'Riley on his game granted has shown more quality but when he's off it he doesn't offer much at all.

Bernardo seems to be solid even when not being particularly influential, that is vital for a midfielder I think. And of course when he's playing well he has the quality to be a match winner alongside his solidity. Just have a feeling the boy has got several levels of improvement in him, potentially even more than O'Riley. Praying it's us who benefit from that and not some other * club.

 

Yeah I agree with ye mate, so right no I think the only real criticism of him would be goal contributions maybe but it’s no coincidence that he was creating more and scoring a couple when he was getting a run of games. Can clearly handle the pressure of the big games aswell

 

Aye agree about his numbers, to be fair a lot of the folk that aren't fussed about signing him are fair enough going by that metric so far. If he was prone to lapses of concentration or his technique failing him at times I'd be in the same boat, but that side of his game is nailed down.

His base level is a constant 6/10 every game, when he grows into his role as a starter and puts in a run of 10-20 games he's gonna be * dynamite imo.

 

O’Riley when he’s off it still offers a * of a lot, defensively he’s excellent, ball retention still excellent and even stuff like defending at corners his height helps a lot.

And then like the weekend, maybe at his worst, he got the third. Other times this season he’s got the decisive pass, if not the final ball for an assist it’s been him that’s played the man in for the assist.

It’s largely unnoticed that, because we’re used to seeing him on his game, and when he is he’s that noticeable going forward when he’s not on it, it looks poorer compared to what is expected.

Bernardo and him are similar like that, but Bernardo when he gets that confidence that he’s destroying defenders going forward has been in small samples, and his simple game working is more expected as his base level. And even then a lot of that goes ignored, because he does it effortlessly and cleverly, rather than all action.

 

Had to go to the 4th page to find this thread which is in some way aligned to the question I have. He was instrumental in the previous 2 Hun games but didn’t get a sniff yesterday as has been the case pretty much since McGregor came back. Personally I think he’s been a bit unlucky but clearly getting Cal back to fitness was crucial & then Iwata has been the obvious sub there. Given the Huns were down to 10 yesterday & Reo not having his best game, I thought he’d maybe have been brought on but could also see the case for Iwata given how nervy we were. Wondering if his lack of game time recently suggests we’re unlikely to pay the fee or is it just the way things have played out? I’d take him for £5m but O’Riley will likely need replaced in addition to that.

 

Seems that Rodgers isn’t a fan. Barely kicked a ball for us in two months.

Would be amazed if we sign him.

 

Yeah inclined to think you’re right tbh. I think he has a lot if potential & would he happy to pay the £5m (certainly happier than paying £5m for Idah).

 

I think he would be value for money for 5 million, especially as expected when some of our top players move on in the summer, he is a relatively young lad with the prospect to improve over the next few years.

 

Aye find it strange how he's dropped off the radar, no idea what's happened as Rodgers has seemed to fancy him a lot of the time. Maybe a case of giving Tomoki the minutes to see if he's up to it long term, as the decision has already been made to sign Bernardo permanently?

Or possibly the negotiations with Benfica are going a bit pear shaped and he's caught in the middle? * knows. He was definitely the guy for yesterday and was nowhere to be seen.

 

Aye strange to see he's not been around much as of late.

Id be inclined to think that means we aren't taking the offer to purchase him.

All went quiet on that front after it was announced we try to negotiate it down a little.
Perhaps we've been knocked back in that sense and it's now just playing out the season as best we can for us.



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I just think Rodgers is a poor manager of a squad and the way he makes subs.

He doesn't rotate at all really if given the choice and then in games he looks like he makes subs on the spur of the moment which often leads to weird subs that put us in tough positions.

Like even if he likes Palma, Bernardo and Ralston he won't just give them a game or won't think im going to give them the last half hour of this game to keep them involved and fresh. He just won't play them and then depending on how a game goes he might sub someone random and then need to make another sub leaving only 1 sub which he doesn't use till late incase someone was to get injured.

A lot of this season also we've had to use subs because McGregor or Hatate or Forrest were unfit and had to be took off early or a lot of the season it was a centre-back, Nawrocki, Phillips, CCV, Welsh, Lagerbielke we've probably subbed our centre-back about 12-15 times this season just cause we started an unfit one who couldn't complete a game.

He seems to take things game to game with no thought that a guy might only have had 20 minutes of football in the past 5 games.

 

Could have done with him on at the 60min mark. Hatate was a man down and would have been perfect while we were still on the front foot

 

Took a while, but I quite like him as a player. However, the £6m + add ons that was being touted sounded really unrealistic.

Think that's a big reason he's dropped out. Can't see him being here next season but sure he'll have a good career.

 

It's weird because his use of subs and tactical tweaks was top level first time here was here, definitely think he's not been as good at it this time so far.

I was actually talking to someone last week about Ralston, and that he should be getting minutes incase Johnston gets a knock. OK turns out Ralston came on yesterday and played well, but it could have easily backfired.

 

I think we'd see him playing ahead of Iwata if we were going in for him. I know they're far from interchangeable, but you'd think if we were trying to get the boy to accept a move here, we'd find space for him at the expense of a player of similar quality.

Perhaps it's a case of squad depth and resources. We've got a fair few midfielders, a strong starting three and some decent backup options, maybe it's a case of just wanting to build the squad elsewhere.

 

Aye, Ralston started the season if you remember because Johnston was injured and he played the first 3/4 games and did fine.

But as soon as Johnston could get on the park, Rodgers started playing him and then subbing Ralston on when Johnston was tiring for like 1/2 games.

Then Ralston was never seen again for months.

Most managers I think would have eased Johnston back, especially as like the first 2 months of the season were just like a pre-season for Johnston but Rodgers had him playing 90 minutes per game the whole time.

Rodgers is not the type to think, if Johnston gets injured Ralston needs to play and i've binned and neglected him he might be rusty, he might have no confidence as i've not even gave him the odd game or even just used him as a sub to keep him fresh. I think Rodgers just thinks "he's better than you so you're not getting a game, if I need to use you you better play well" and theres to be no excuses about it.

Like Oh I feel like he didn't like and binned probably as Oh maybe questioned how he was never getting used, even when games were won he'd bring Oh on for like 2/3/5/10 minutes which looks like a punishment. Like you're not even getting to make any kind of impact at all for me you are *. Even though Oh was the only other striker in the squad in the first half of the season, his management style for me is like testing players, like how will you react if I dont play you for months or if I put you on 3 games in a row for 5 minutes.

Theres no keeping players happy or involved.

Ange's style in comparison was like the back up striker gets 30 minutes a game, the back up wingers/midfielders/full-backs get 30 minutes every other game. Sometimes the back-up player starts, everyone is rotated and part of the team.

 

Id have to really disagree with these points.

He literally managed Bernardo superbly for the new year's game against the Huns.

He's also managed the return of CCV, McGregor and Hatate spot on the past month now. Getting them all the right amount of minutes and built up for when games like yesterday with Maeda

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Johnstons been poor this season and Ralston should definitely got more minutes. Credit to him for coming straight back in and performing when needed. Lads got some mentality. I think you are right and Rodgers will not even given it a second thought.

I assume Rodgers thinks the backline has had too many changes this season is part of it. I don't agree with that but I'd do think that's his thinking.

 

Celtic have reportedly yet to indicate to Benfica if they plan to seal a permanent deal for Paulo Bernardo.

The midfielder is inching closer to the end of his season-long loan from the Lisbon giants - but his deal includes a clause that means a £6million bid would be enough to bring the 22-year-old Scottish Premiership champions long-term. However, according to Portuguese outlet Record the Hoops are in no rush to make the deal permanent

Reports had previously suggested that Celtic had aimed to negotiate a lower fee for the Portugal U21 cap that would see him join Brendan Rodgers' side once again next term. But it now appears that talks between the pair have gone cold with Bernardo's long-term future "still unknown". As it stands, Celtic "have not indicated that they will trigger the purchase clause" and talks to keep Bernardo in Glasgow's east end have "gone quiet



The report notes that Celtic have guaranteed Champions League football next term following their title triumph, and explains that the delay in talks could be due to the the Parkhead transfer gurus believing "they can spend the money better elsewhere". Bernardo enjoyed a run in the staring line-up amid injuries to Reo Hatate and Callum McGregor


Since then, he has mainly been deployed as a substitute by Rodgers. His last start came back in March against St Johnstone - and Bernardo has only made six more appearance for the Hoops

 

No chance we are spending 6 million on him.. take him for 2