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"Our supporters do not want this any more. We are a non-political organisation"

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Dáibhí, Nov 28, 2013.

Discuss "Our supporters do not want this any more. We are a non-political organisation" in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. Liam Scales

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    I just find thay argument amusing, some folk acting like this is a new development when infact Brother Walfrid was singing * Save Ireland right after the conception of the club but, aw naw, it's aw weans that must be singing these terrible, terrible songs :56:

    This new theory that we should all be good little Brits is the new thing and if it ever takes fully over it's when I'll be ditching the Hoops and that'd break my * heart.
     
  2. Daver

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    I don't think it's loons singing the songs solely at all - however, I do think there's a lot of them on here.

    Re my post a couple back (bad publicity) interested to hear your thoughts amigo?
     
  3. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    Right I think the "republicans" have won this thread, so let's all move on. :50:
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    We're always going to get bad publicity in this country, if it draws a wider eye on what is actually happening in this country then I'm wuite happy with that though. Every route has been tried, we've had MSP's telling people to 'stop blocking up there mailboxes with this nonsense'.

    What we are seeing just now is a Government hellbent on not allowing an immigrant community to celebrate or mourn there history, anything Republican shown is a criminal offence, it's got to the desperation stage and as I've stated before, it is fascist.

    The most active political group in the stadium is the Indy bhoys. Wonder why Salmond's bill doesn't have a problem with they politics?
     
  5. Daver

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    Indy Bhoys....jesus christ, it sends shivers down the spine.

    Personal thoughts remain that I don't think this occasion did any cause any good at all, truth be told.....but I know everyone has a differing opinion on that, so each to their own Devski.
     
  6. Liam Scales

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    What do you think about that point though? Why is one ok and not the other?
     
  7. Daver

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    I agree entirely - one rule for one and another for another is symptomatic of the general bullshit to be honest with you. Inconsistencies, coupled with poorly thought out and executed policies. A perfect example of my desire to keep these people at arm's length in terms of authority. The "better the devil you know" analogy.

    Again, a contentious view!:smiley-laughing002:
     
  8. TheHolyGoalie

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    All this banner has achieved is more division in the support, more criticism from media, more sanctions from UEFA and possibly the straw that breaks the camels back in terms of the relationship between the GB and the board.
     
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    I would also be interested to know how many people are Scottish compared to Irish on each side, and also how many people actual support the right to be political rather than the actual politics on show.

    But without asking people to complete a full questionnaire, we will never know!

    I am actually quite surprised as regards the number of people who agree with Lawwell on this subject on here. I would have guessed numbers would have been around 90/10 against Lawwell on here, while I think season book holders would be closer to 80/20 for Lawwell.

    I hear the BBC are trying to get a debate sorted on this subject, but fan groups are rejecting it. I think it would be very interesting to see. Likewise a questionnaire to every season book buyer would be interesting as well. It is really the only way we can ever conclude of where overall opinion sits.
     
  10. Liam Scales

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    There's nothing to be gained by a debate with the fans on the BBC. If they get the fan groups and the Celtic board we should start talking.

    80/20 for Lawwell as season ticket holders? Well the ones that actually turned up on Saturday gave the H block and Roll of Honour a standing ovation. The majority who were there.
     
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    This sums up how I feel about it....it's well known that I prefer that the rebel numbers are kept away from the game although I won't lamb-blast those who sing them each to their own....however, it's pretty galling at times reading some members opinions that allude to me being not a 'real' Celtic fan and I'm not welcome by some because I don't support the singing of these songs and the promoting(possibly the wrong word) of the IRA,PIRA and other Republican groups at our games......when I am at the game I fully support the team on the pitch and I sing my heart out....I'm as much a Celtic fan as those who do.

    I sing the rebels out with Celtic Park,walking around the house doing the house work....in the pub before/after a game, every time I visit my mum and dad....my dad and I always have a little song or two

    I've been avoiding the forum due to this debate and the way it is causing an even bigger divide amongst our support..... I'm against the criminalisation of our support and I support their right to protest....I do however feel that a better time and place could have been chosen....UEFA was always going to jump on it....hopefully they understand what the banner was about and see that they are doing exactly what the banner was protesting about.

    Agreed


    EDIT: On the subject of PL, no I don't agree with his speaking for me....I also don't like people I don't know whether it be the GB, fellow fans and members of the forum speaking for me either.
     
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  12. Liam Scales

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    A cowardly one in my view mate, conform to discrimination in order to not get shouted at.
     
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    Agree with a lot of your posts here mate. :50:
     
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    By that I meant a "no" vote - ie actively keeping their powers limited as they cannot be trusted to use them wisely. This as opposed to simply ignoring them!!:smiley-laughing002:
     
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    Embarrassing the same fellow Celtic fans have this attitude.
     
  16. Liam Scales

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    I'm not sure there's a difference there.

    To me it's discrimination, pure and simple and I don't want to see Celtic fans in support of that discrimination because if you're calling a spade a spade here, when Peter Lawwell says 'politics' he means The Irish Republican movement.

    He's happy with promoting Lord Livingstone on the official website, he's happy with the Indy Bhoys, he's happy with having the SNP to give us money to advertise in our stadium and he's happy to donate to the Poppy Fund, all political issues.

    To actively support the discrimination, he is betraying everything our club has ever been about.
     
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    Yawn.
     
  18. Liam Scales

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    The difference being I respect Daver's opinion.
     
  19. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    Funny that's exactly how I'd describe your posts, the same repeated boring * about what we should or shouldn't sing out of some self righteous belief that you can decide what's right and wrong despite the fact our support has been singing these songs for years.

    It's honestly getting tiresome.
     
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