Open letter - one off match decider v Warsaw

This decision has nothing to do with Celtic..

Legia * up :bbpd:

 

A one of match would not be possible. When would it be played? Would it even be official?

 

Peter Lawwell will wipe his * with their open letter , and celtic will stay button lipped on the whole thing , let legia have their hissy fits . We will be playing Maribor in the next round . Legia will eventually go back to whatever hole they crawled out from .

Celtic has already released a statement on the website saying they are disappointed by legias comments and will be leaving it in the hands of uefa.
This rematch is a non starter .

 

Meh, you forgot to highlight one rule:
http://www.uefa.org/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/64/85/47/1648547_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Article 54 I believe saying that if both teams have common cause and appeal the decision (both agree that Legia deserves place in CL qualifying and Celtic in EL qualifying) then UEFA has the power to change the decision.

Who made the rules? UEFA
Are Legia a UEFA member club? YES
Should they be aware of the rules of the competition they are competing in? YES
Were they? NO
Is that incompetent? YES
Is all this of Legia's own doing? YES
Do Celtic have any responsibility to help rectify Legias errors? NO
Does Celtic have any power (and would it be fair-lay) to make sure that whats on the field stands? YES

 

Sorry but this is utter rubbish. If you honestly believe that if the roles were reversed and Legia would let Celtic STILL take their place in the next round even though they fielded an ineligible player, then you are pretty gullible. No team would do that, and as I said before, it would set a precident for other teams to just do the same and it would just be an utter farce.

For the sport to played correctly the paperwork has to be done correctly. If you don't care about the paperwork then you will get situations exactly like this.

Celtic don't have to communicate with your club. In fact, they don't have to do a * thing. Celtic haven't done anything wrong at all anywhere. It's UEFA that made the ruling, and that ruling had nothing to do with our club. Your club are just making themselves look more and more ridiculous the longer they keep throwing their toys out the pram.

 

@St.Matt:

A long post, mate, but you failed to say anything new on the matter.
We all know Legia f*cked up, and we all know this is our fault--all we're saying is that the punishment was disproportionatelly harsh (and I'm not going to argue about it for the umpteenth time) and that the law should be changed in the future.

As for Mioduski's letter--it's a PR stunt; he doesn't really expect Celtic to do anything. His claims that Legia would act differently, if we were in Celtic's shoes, don't sound very credible even to many of Legia's fans.

 

This a million times

 

no doubt the MSM in this shithole of a country will have a field day and make us the villians because Legia sacked 4 inept employees

 

So if your player came on when there was still an hour to play, would that have been OK? It doesn't matter if it was 3 minutes, 30 minutes or 30 seconds. Your team fielded a player who was suspended!!

Would you be expected to be punished if you were caught driving while having a suspended licence? Or would you still say "but I was only driving for 3 minutes"?

*, how hard is that for people to actually grasp?!

 

What a joke, they severley * up and broke the rules but now think because they can beat us that we or uefa will allow them the chance to go through again..

Loada bollocks, get *..

 

Well, if you have Lawwell running your team for a while you might get the idea that nothing besides money matters, but there are passionate owners out there who would do the right thing. Mioduski and Lesnodorski being one of them.

True, they dont have to. It would be fair-play to do so though. And Legia isnt making themselves look ridiculous. They make Celtic look ridiculous for calling them out in this situation and making Celtics options (ones that lots werent aware they have) public. Its PR stunt that shows there will be a cost in reputation for all of this because it will drag on in CAS, and then in courts if it has to making Celtic look bad. They are just putting a bit of pressure (not enough I think to change anything though) on Celtics board. Nothing else

 

Starting to think the poles are fishing. Surely to * they aren't actually expecting the outcome to change ?! And all this embarrassing 'but what if' nonsense is just a wind up.

 

I think ridiculous might be lost in your translation,
but that's ok.

 

Yeah man, thinking that beating somebody on the field 6-1 is enough to advance in sports.....bollocks I tell ya

 

instead of this mumping and moaning, to celtic, saying celtic answer the phone or emails and can we play a one of game is a joke, nowt to do with celtic, celtic not in wrong, its up to uefa so instead of moaning to us, moan to them, becoz rules is rules simple as that, if uefa turn around and say legia will be in champions league, and celtic in Europa cup, wont hear celtic moaning to legia and all this rubbish, they will just get on with, joke on legia for making them self out to be stupid and incompetent becoz didn't know rules and fact didn't have him on team sheet for first 2 qualifiers, sack legia chairman and management there the ones at fault, its all about deflecting flack from them on to someone else to blame when its there own fault...... nae luck

 

And you think that PR stunts and trying to damage another clubs reputation is also 'fair play' and the right thing to do?

 

I don't believe for a second Celtic didn't answer phone calls :smiley-laughing002: it's not some boy hiding in his flat who owes his mate money n he can't afford it so ignores his texts and calls. It seems a very easy excuse to just go to the media mate.

ffs.

Hand on heart, if this route is possible, I would be willing to give Legia the spot, I don't for a second believe there was any intention to cheat or gain advantage by Legia. However, do I believe that Legia's board would also do the same if the roles were reversed? I'm unsure, they're businessmen no matter how much of a sports fan they are, turning down a potential £20m is huge to a club like Legia.

I'm not Peter Lawwell or any other of our major board members who are liable to so many shareholders so therefore I cannot give a view of what a board-member is thinking.

Again, though, it seems as if Legia have handled this whole affair very amateurishly, even the letter, sucking up our arses just to get some sympathy/empathy, bit cringeworthy, just ask for the meeting :smiley-laughing002:.

We were pumped and don't deserve it at all, but Legia have really let themselves down with the whole affair too, unfortunately.

 

How can you change the rules retrospectively though? All clubs went into the competition knowing the rules (or should have), there will have been other clubs out there in the qualifiers that had suspended players and acted accordingly. The rule may seem unjust but that horse has now bolted. If you feel so strongly then by all means petition UEFA to change the rules for FUTURE competitions. You can't start trying to re-write the rule book for every rule that doesn't suit you.

 

IN response to statements made by Legia Warsaw today, a spokesperson for Celtic Football Club said:
“We are disappointed by Legia Warsaw's comments. This is entirely a matter for UEFA and its processes. Accordingly, we will reserve further comment for the appropriate time.”

thats telling them