"Offensive chanting"

I don't think they should be sung at parkhead but they can't really ban them as there not really secterian and trying to ban them saying there offensive is ridiculous cause to most Huns the colour green is offensive

 

I agree but they all must go. Or at least chants and songs referring to violent passages of history or violent groups within the last 100 years that there is a divide over. If it doesnt divide people (then there is no problem and no offense taken but it is clear that the loyalist and republican songs do divide and therefore do cause offense. They have a place in enclosed venues of like minded people but they do not belong in football matches in Scotland and especially at away games.

 

the legislation (wisely) avoids the word sectarian and instead focusses on 'offensive'. So there is no point in debating sectarian and its definition.

 

I enjoy them sung home and away, loved the broad black brimmer on sunday, I think it relates to us well. And I also think jcge and things like this will eventually be the norm at cp.

 

The legislation covers only Scotland and what is offensive to the Scottish population. What offends others outside Scotland is irrelevant. I have never met a Scot who found Flower of Scotland offensive. Its never going to be on a banned list and it is our national anthem. I wish people would stop using this false analogy.

 

They were singing up the 'ra on Sunday ffs. Embarrassing.
Celtic is a football club. Keep politics out of football.

 

it was ooh aah sam aras they were chanting

 

sorry mate you could clearly hear them singing up the ra

 

Banish the add ons on the fields, simply not part of the song no need for it. And imo with the Celtic symphony just keep it to 'oh ah up the Celts'. It is/can be sung with those lyrics so really don't see what the big issue is to stick to that? Not sung much anyways but Roaming in the gloamin should be binned too.

 

This thread repeatedly appears. Can I ask what is sectarian about chanting the IRA chants? The club was made by Irish immigrants and was intended to make people aware of the problems in Ireland, so why the complaints when we chant a rebel alliance who thought for the rights of the clubs founded country? The songs have been sung for the majority of the 100 odd years as a club why change all of a sudden? I for one like to hear 'The Soldier Song' sung at Celtic Park.

 

No you can't, this is a thread about "offensive chanting" clearly there's a difference.

 

ugh, hasn't the board already asked for fans to stop the IRA songs?
It's embarrassing.

 

So why not take your chants and songs to a political rally. The IRA have zero to do with CFC.

I suppose you couldn't care less the fact our own board have pleaded with fans not to sing songs glorifying the IRA. I suppose also that it makes no difference to you that there is a real possibility we could be deducted points or face a vicious fine if people continue to sing offensive songs.

Ask yourself how you'd feel if we were docked a couple of points for the songs being sung and we lost the league by a point. Would you still be ranting about the thought police and bigots?

 

The problem is the word 'offensive'. it's clearly a subjective term. What exactly is offensive? the word rangers is offensive to me, whereas others wouldn't be offended for example.

to cut a long story short: * all these media clowns. let the people sing.

 

Ah, so the Government, SFA, Celtic and the meedja have failed, and at times REFUSED to name what constitutes a 'sectarian' song - and now certain songs which we all know they are on about are now classed as 'offensive'?

* off and geez peace.

Fields of Athenry and the Celtic Symphony is offensive to people...just to let you know.

 

its says if songs may reasonably been seen as offensive. I think it is perfectly reasonable to take offense at a song that is about violent phases of recent history where your own family may have been on the other side and even have been effected. However it is not reasonable if someone takes offense simply because the song has an Irish theme. That would be just plain bigotry.

However, as a fan of folk music I know the vast majority of Irish songs are not about fighting Britain. Celtic fans have chosen to select these songs about war etc. A war, violence, politics focussed selection has been extracted from a huge corpus of Irish folk song. Its not a normal balanced selection of Irish songs. That is IMO something that Celtic fans are responsible for and something they can change.

 

Say what you want and think what you will, I for one WILL NOT stop singing songs which are neither sectarian nor racist.

If certain people don't like them, I really couldn't give a *.

IF, and that's a BIG IF my choice of songbook was to become detrimental to the team, and not to the ears of the easily offended - I would consider changing my mind.

 

Well all I will say is that we can rightly be accussed of singing a narrow selection of hand picked Irish songs focussed on war, paramilatism, struggles with Britain etc rather than celebrating Irishness as a whole. I know for a fact that many actual real Irish people are often embarissed by the war-politics etc angle that Celtic fans tend to use to express Irishness and feel it totally misrepresents them as people obsessed with war, struggle and anti-British sentiment.

 

Its because they are top quality songs.

There are about a dozen rebel songs or more that are utterly class songs for singing and partying.

 

Just stop singing IRA songs and adding the wee chants in there and no one has an excuse to give us grief.

I'm scunnered hearing that stuff at the football grounds and cringe seeing people sing it.

Just stop it altogether.